Editor's Note: Steve McDonagh owns and operates Hearty Restaurant and The Hearty Boys Caterers with his partner, Dan Smith. In addition to winning the first season of Food Network's hit series "Food Network Star," Smith and McDonagh live in Chicago with their son, Nate.
I am not a Dan Cathy basher. I respect Chick-fil-A's Chief Operating Officer for taking an honest stand and putting his business in the line of fire by clarifying the company’s stance on gay marriage.
It takes guts to be responsible for your words. It takes a person of conviction who is willing to bear the repercussions from those who dislike what he has to say. And in a political climate where our politicians are afraid to say anything off-prompter, lest it be twisted and dissected for hidden meaning, the responsible are difficult to find.
I’ve been vocal about my political and social convictions for years. My guess is that Cathy would be surprised at how much he and I have in common.
Like Cathy, my partner’s and my business plan has always been intertwined with our personal lives. The Hearty Boys are Dan and Steve; they can’t be separated. Even our closest friends refer to us as The Hearty Boys, as in "we’re going to The Hearty Boys for dinner because Mike Huckabee didn’t respond to their dinner invitation, so there’s an extra seat."
Like Cathy, we are a family-run business. We cherish the remembered moments of covering our son in a fresh tablecloth when meetings and naptime collided, know the exhaustion of late night pillow talk being business-related, and the pride we felt when Nate first said he wants to someday run the business (be warned, he wants to make it a combo Chinese takeout and veterinary clinic).
Like Cathy, we use the power of our brand to back up our beliefs - and this is where the tricky part of responsibility starts. Unlike the nameless Internet ninjas, what we say not only reflects on us as individuals but onto our businesses. And by “business,” I don't mean just our bottom line but the people who work for us and those that do business with us. How does what Steve McDonagh says reflect on someone who holds a position in The Hearty Boys? How does what Dan Cathy says make his gay and lesbian employees feel? Or gay and lesbian franchise owners? Or gay and lesbian stockholders?
Like Cathy, “we want to do anything we possibly can to strengthen families." But when Dan Cathy says “strengthen families,” he’s excluding my family: Dan, Steve and Nate. He means except Abby, Julie and Carly, or Brad, John, Max and Jack-Jack. We obviously don’t fall under the “families” heading and we must be marginalized.
So, when Mike Huckabee called for August 1 to be Chick-fil-A Appreciation Day, we decided to make August 1 Chick-fil-Gay Appreciation Day at Hearty Restaurant in Chicago. When a guest purchases a fried chicken sandwich with pickles on a toasted buttered bun, the proceeds will go directly to Equality Illinois to help families that some feel don’t deserve strengthening.
And here the similarities completely end. Unlike Cathy, I have no interest in alienating my client base or offending my guests. I run on a business plan of inclusion. A Chick-fil-A statement stressed that the chain is inclusive as well. Its more than 1,600 stores are committed to treating gay and lesbian employees and guests with the same “honor, dignity and respect” that they give everyone else, but my community knows better. There’s no honor, dignity and respect in thanking a client for a purchase and using LGBT dollars to fund programs aimed at destroying our families.
Finally, we stand on different sides of history. Sadly, Dan Cathy is on the wrong side. Cathy can refer to us a “prideful and arrogant,” but I think those words are well-suited to those who sit in judgment and speak for their version of God. Sixty years of civil rights history teach us that basic human rights will always win out. You can’t stop equal rights anymore than you can take back that seat on the bus. This is our new reality. You can’t stop progress, as the man says.
The tide has changed, and the escalating shouts we hear are the cries of the self-righteous who never imagined they’d be the ones fighting the current.
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Hearty Boys huh? Stealing cathy's thunder.
Steve, do you donate any funds to charity? Do you think it's possible that your donations might offend some? Same situation....
Focus on the Family is NOT a charitable organization, but a political one. One of it's main "focuses" is NOT the family, but the taking away of all rights for LGBT people and their families. They have been designated a "hate group" and rightly so in my opinion. Chic-fil-a's donations to this group are the real issue, not Mr Cathy's opinion on same sex marriage.
The charity is Equality Illinois, don't you see the difference between that and a group that has agendas that attack a group of people?
We keep hearing about these hate groups that Mr. Cathy supports financially. Who are these groups and what do they do to hate LBGT's? Do they lobby against Gay marriage? Do they have rallies? Do they support the crazy babtist church that shows up at soldiers funnerals? Do they research the cause of sexual deviation? Please list the groups and how they are Hate groups.
Any group that supports traditional marriage is now classified as a hate group. Focus on the Family, American Family Association, etc.
Please go ahead and support traditional marriage. I'm traditionally married for 20 years to my first wife and I support it. Even though there are times we cannot stand each other, we know that there are times that we cannot stand to be without each other. However if my gay neighbors decide to get married, it doesn't really impact the traditional quality of my traditional marriage. The essence of America is defined by inclusiveness and tolerance.
Hate straight people. They're the ones having gay sons and daughters.
If Adam and Eve only had two sons, where did we all come from?
Adam and Eve had over 90 children and yes, brothers and sisters did marry, however 'incest' wasn't an issue then because the bloodlines were pure and had none of the issues that would result as we have today. God ceased inter-family marriages at the time of Abraham and Sarah.
Every wondered that Adam and Eve might have been metaphors and not real people? Of course that would detract from the creationism belief that so defines the America I am prrrroud of.
Same place gay's come from......"straight" couples.
Maybe there was a typo. It's hard to decipher those old tattered scrolls. Maybe it was Adam & Steve.
What's funny is, gays have a disorder where they are attracted to the same gender. They have the disorder but think we need the help because we see it as abnormal to which by nature it is. Why do we have to take the cure when you the gay has the preoblem?
I made the mistake of thinking that ignorance is abnormal – and then I read your post and several others on this blog.
Apparently stupidity is running rampant......
Homosexuality is a normal variation among nearly every mamalian species on planet Earth – including humans. Anyone who says otherwise is apparently ignorant of the facts.
Abnormal by who's standard? If you were an intellect you'd realize that it is a matter of perception. For example... have you ever considered that gays may see heterosexual intercourse as nasty and discusting? So, if beauty is in the eye of the beholder, why can't sexuality be viewed in the same respect. If you're a Bible thumper let me add this... Jesus never spoke on the issue... did you ever wonder why?
Because Jesus ran around with a bunch of long-haired bachelors who all wore sandals and dresses.
first of all if you really believe homosexuality is a disorder than why is that funny? And no one is asking you to change your ignorant mind set but everyone should have the right to marry the person they want to as long as the relationship is consensual.
well isn't this guy well balanced. he's so well balanced he doesn't know if he's a man or a lady.
I will definitely eat at Hearty's restaraunt the next time I'm in Chicago.....and I will never eat at Chik-fil-A's again.
I'm a heterosexual man with three beautiful children and the last thing I am ever going to do is discriminate against a person or group of people that are hard-working, decent individuals simply because they do not have the same sexual orientation that I do.
Sad that people like yourself have to turn to hatred and sarcasm to belittle someone who is obviously a positive contributor to our society.
Get over yourself – it's pretty pathetic.
BUNCH OF LOSERS!!! FIGHTING FOR GAY MARRIAGES AND ALL THAT. USA HAVE MORE PROBLEMS TO TAKE CARE OF. ECONOMY IS BAD AND FIGHTING FOR GAY MARRIAGES. JUST DROP IT JUST
BE SURE YOU ARE OK WITH GOD. SAVE YOURSELF AND WORRY ABOUT YOU.
Gay marriage is GOOD for the economy. You should be for it if you want the economic outlook to improve. Why it has brought over 200 million dollars in new spending to the New York City area alone since the State of New York legalized it. Think what it could do for your town/state!
Funny how Conservatives are going there today to show support for free speech, yet the Liberals are going on Friday in anger.
Who's really the party of hate?
Who cares? Both are idiots.
You sound like an authority on that topic...
As would be anyone who takes the screen name "Truth"
Because we're going there today to support someone who has been constantly bashed because of his PERSONAL belief. Nobody is bashing you constantly for believing the way you do, so why should Mr. Cathy?
On the other hand, you'll be going simply out of spite and to do your best to shove your beliefs in our faces. Personally I think the 'gay day' will fall amazingly short of expectations.
Since only 1% of Americans are gay, there is no way they can come up with the numbers that will be showing up today.
Just drove past my local Chik-fil-a and the parking lot had only 8 cars during lunch. I go by it every day and a month ago the lot was nearly always packed at noontime. And I live in a very conservative area of Florida. I guess you really do reap what you sow....
That's funny, because I just drove past mine and the place is packed. Go figure.
These guys run a restaurant and catering business, which are universally considered extremely time consuming, all-encompassing businesses. Who actually watches Nate?
Let's face it, for gay couples, legalized marriage and having kids is just another way to make themselves feel more normal, more mainstreamed, and being loved and accepted by the general public is the highest goal of the gay agenda. It's one big, long chorus of "Waah, daddy didn't love me!" That's why it's not enough that people leave them alone, they want to coerce us to declare that they are great and normal. The kids are just props.
He's probably old enough to watch himself. Derp.
Really? Who watches their kid? That's your argument?
There are literally millions of non-gay couples with the same dilemma....it's called "daycare", or "grandma and grandpa", or Uncle Steve", or whomever they decide is best suited to help them raise their child.
What is your point?
And by the way – to say that the kids are "props" is probably the dumbest thing I've read on these blogs – and that is saying a lot....
Educate yourself. Go look at the statistics to see how children from gay families develop. You just might learn something.....idiot.
From their website:
"We sent a tape into Food Network and beat out 10,000 entrants to become The Next Food Network Star; we launched our own show, Party Line with The Hearty Boys and opened our first restaurant, HB. Then we topped it off with the birth of our son, Nate."
They just "topped off" their attention whoringreality show careers and opening of their restaurant with...a human life! How lovely!
If you've got 2 parents working 18 hour days and ship your kid off to daycare or a nanny for the majority of their waking hours, maybe you're notas "family oriented" as you'd like people to believe in order to sell more grey chicken sanwiches.
Congratulations, you're spinning off someone else's publicity to benefit yourself. Way to cash in on free advertising! Enjoy it while it lasts, hearty boy, because once this all blows over, Chick-fil-a is still a national Franchise and nobody will flock to Chicago to visit your resturant in rememberence of your little ploy to drum up some temporary business.
to the author: "It takes a person of conviction who is willing to bear the repercussions from those who dislike what he has to say" Those types of people have often been called 'fanatics' or 'martyrs'. Not the type of reputation I would care for.
But I'd like to amend your line above: it takes a person of conviction, ... willing to bear repercusions.. who IS Also Smart Enough to anticipate what a socially insensitive remark might trigger....
With all the talk surrounding Caty's 1st Amendment rights, there's also common sense (knowing when to keep quiet), public sensibilities (how to cater to a fundamentalist crowd) , and yes, gays have the protection of the constitution too.
If you're in a business, you have a bottom line to watch for: revenue. If you want to use your platform to make social statements, be prepared for lower revenue... ( I wonder if Caty considers Romney a full fledged 'christian'....?)
As a Christian (who is also gay), I am both appalled at the idea of supporting a company that seeks to inhibit the rights of American citizens and, at the same time, I give them kudos for not being afraid to stand behind their beliefs. There is, in fact, biblical precedence for the arguments against gay sex (read Romans). However, there is also biblical precedence for leaving the judgment of others up to God and we should never seek to put barriers in anyone's way (read James). So freedom to all, equal rights, blah, blah, blah and hopefully this news fad about Chick Fil A will go away in a few days. Something more exciting will happen in the news, don't worry, then this will be just another stupid hyped up story like the intoxication of Lindsey Lohan or the apocalypse of 2000....
...and for the record, I generally do not eat fast food because it upsets my stomach. And just as equally I do not take part in activities within the gay community because they also upset my stomach.
Nothing better than the arrogant comment "on the wrong side of history". Oh, you mean to tell me you can predict the future?
EAT MORE CHIKIN!!
Civil rights? Being black is not a genetic disorder, being a homosexual is. Insisting that gays have the right to marry is like insisitng that the blind have the right to drive or that the deaf have the right to be music critics. It's nonsense. When the technology exists to cure blindness and deafness they will be cured. Given the option, I suppose it's possible that a heterosexual couple could choose to have a gay son, but I don't imagine that would happen very often. It's certainly no sin to have a genetic disorder, and no one should hate gay people any more than they should hate blind people or deaf people. But equating gay marriage to the struggle blacks had for civil rights is a little ridiculous as it suggests that being black is a genetic disorder.
Wait. Am I reading this correctly? You are saying that people are born gay? That it's genetic and not a choice? Wow! I'm glad that you can understand that part at least. But it's not a genetic disorder, anymore than being of a certain ethnicity is. It's a part of the human genetic code. It's existed for thousands of years, and the only reason it's a problem is because other humans poke their noses into the affairs of others. If gay marriage was allowed, what happens to the genetic code of humans? Nothing. Marriage is a human construct. Our government codifies it with tax deductions and preferences for insurance. In that way, it is completely unConstitutional to offer benefits to one person and not offer it to another based on a genetic situation. Sorry, it simply is not.
The simplest way to resolve the issue. Let marriage be a sacrament of the church, and have no tax deductions for spouses or dependants. Make every household purchase their insurance by individual living in the same household, and at the same cost per person, regardless of age or gender. If a church wishes to subsidize their parishoners' health insurance or taxes....then the church can do so at their own expense to promote their independent values.
As a Christian and a believer on the teachings of Christ, the Christian poseurs here are definitely out of touch with the holy book. What do you think good old JC was upto with all those dashing apostles. Why'dya think Judas betrayed him with a "kiss" (apparently a natural gesture). Man love's been rulin' the roost ever since the Dinosaurs. And no one apart from those secretly ashamed of their own desires ever had a problem with it. Come clean, y'all.
Yeah well, you come clean to. Either that or keep on pretending that this is not just what it is, a genetic disorder that causes people to remove themselves from the gene pool which affects about 3 percent of the population. Like deafness, blindness, heart defects, and other genetic disorders, when it's possible to cure it, it will be cured. Dressing it up in a wedding dress and tuxedo, and giving it unwanted children, is the wrong way to handle a genetic disorder. It's like insisting that the blind have a right to drive or that the deaf have the right to be music critics. It's nonsense. BTW, your insinuation that Christ and all his apostles were homosexual is at best disingenuouse, he was a Jew as were all his apostles. Jesus never talked about homosexuality because his audience was only Jews and there were no open homosexuals among the jews because they dealt with them harshly and permanenetly if it were known. You're fortunate you didn't live in his time.
Yeah well, you come clean to. Either that or keep on pretending that this is not just what it is, a genetic disorder that causes people to remove themselves from the gene pool which affects about 3 percent of the population. Like deafness, blindness, heart defects, and other genetic disorders, when it's possible to cure it, it will be cured. Dressing it up in a wedding dress and tuxedo, and giving it unwanted children, is the wrong way to handle a genetic disorder. It's like insisting that the blind have a right to drive or that the deaf have the right to be music critics. It's nonsense.
You are right. Being Gay is a genetic disorder just as being smart or enlightened is. Join me brother in praying the smart away. Anyone unable or unwilling to procreate needs treatment, including sterile heterosexuals. So too, does anyone having a brain capable of self determination.
@ proud to be... you haven't quite proved your smarts here, fellow. Just the usual holier than thou attitude that we're familiar with .. keep on praying, ...
"Gay is a genetic disorder" No one has proven that. There is a growing number of doctors that believe sexual oriantation changes when there is an imbalance of estrogen and testosterone levels in womb. What a shocker that woudl be if it turns out to be correct. Not genetic, not normal and curable.
"if Christians don't approve of gays they should have their tubes tied or practice abstinence because any couple can conceive a gay child." this statement from Kimberclark is just hate filled. Just becuase Christains don't believe the gay lifestyle is the right way to live, doesn't mean they would not Love their own children. Don't believe what the media tells you on either side.
More deceitful garbage from the gay support clan.
I think you're too late. Steve already did pray his smart away....... at least judging by his posts.
Steve, as you stated it is a genetic disorder and by your description it sounds like you would be against creating free access for those born with handicaps that put them in wheelchairs or difficulty walking. "Why should we help those with these disorders? They should just stay home and be quiet! Prof. Stephen Hawking had better spend his money on making his life at home comfortable because society is not going to make any accommodations for a thinking, intelligent individual with things to contribute."
You are saying, "Hey, sorry you were born with a genetic disorder that makes you attracted to those of your own sex. This was no fault of your own but because of it, if you decide to co-habitate with a same sex partner we are just not going to allow you to have the legal civil union we call marriage. Yes, this is diepite the fact that you are two informed, consenting adults. We will make inheritance, hospital visits, medical insurance, property rights, and especially adoption difficult for you. No, we don't care that you have been a couple for 20 years. The different sex couple who are legally married for 6 moths are going to get more of the rights guaranteed by the government than you. What? You are also American citizens guaranteed the same rights by the Constitution? What? There is already legal precedent that states this?
We I'm sorry. That's still not gonna happen in Steve's world.
So Steve, what you are saying is that gays are "born that way" (God's plan) and homosexuality is not a moral lapse, correct?
That being so, why should gays be denied the same rights you and I are?
So, using your logic, should we ban marriage for people that are mentally retarded as well? How about people that are born with a physical or mental birth defect that is the result of a genetic disorder? It is unbelievable how completely intolerant people are about a topic that, if they would just leave it alone, would not affect their lives in the slightest bit.
Live and let live.
The funny thing about your genetic disorder argument – if you read enough of the posts on this blog, you will find several people that say it is a "choice" to be gay. So which is it? You have a whole bunch of ignorant people that can't even come together on what the issue is – yet all of you are hating people that have done nothing to you at all. It's pretty scary.....
BTW, your insinuation that Christ and all his apostles were a little light in the sandals is at best disingenuouse, he was a Jew as were all his apostles. Jesus never talked about homosexuality because his audience was only Jews and there were no open homosexuals among the jews because they dealt with them harshly and permanenetly if it were known. You're fortunate you didn't live in his time. How about I'm just not so secretly ashamed that you're an American?
BTW, your insinuation that Jeus and all his apostles were a little light in the sandals is at best disingenuous, he was Jewish as were all his apostles. Jesus never talked about because his gays because his audience was only Jewish and there were no open gays among the jews because they dealt with them harshly and permanenetly if it were known. You're fortunate you didn't live in his time. How about we compromise and I'll just be ashamed that you're an American.
As I will be ashamed of you. Spewing hatred is sad.
"Proud to be an American" comment is idiotic, has no basis in history, culture or the evidence.
Just goes to show that idiots are out there, pretending to be soemthing they are not in order to make others look as deviant as they ion order to attempt to get others approval for their deviance.
The biggest poser is the pretend "PTBAA"
Hey, I'm not a poseur. I'm truly proud to be an ignorant homophobic xenophobic bible thumping American just like you, brother Jim.
Oh, Jesus was totally gay. Long hair, wore a dress, no relations with females. Definitely.
No doubt about it!
So if Oprah buys a Chic-fil-a sandwich, will Dan Cathy give her money to the Klan?
It may be his right but it still isn't right.
Ya know, the closest thing to a lynching I'm finding in all this is happening to Christy. I'm going to Chik Fil A. Either we're going to let the gay mafia rule the country or not. I for one find that allowing a fraction of three percent of the nation the power to put ANYBODY out of business over a genetic disorder is just wrong.
I now understand why Whirling a Squirrel and trying to Eat in the Bathroom are a REAL PITA.
Common Sense and a little old school English always Helps. Thanks.
Aren't corporations considered 'people' by the government, or tax code? Can't people have opinions? Extrapolate... ;)
What would Dan Cathy do if members of the gay and lesbian community made a purchase at one of his restaurants this Wednesday? Would he pocket them? Donate them?
I am left to ponder...
Maybe he could simple keep quiet. After all, hasn't he already benefited from those that never knew he felt this way...until now?
Men and women have died defending this GREAT COUNTRY so its citizens can voice his or her opinions without oppression. Just like any businesses or actors that have publicly supported gays, Dan is entitled to speak his mind. Free speech works both ways.
Great post Bev
To bad the LBGT population in general doesn't see it that way and the media is just reinforcing it, GNN included.
If you are not for every position that the LBGT wants, then you are a hate filled bigot.
What a wonderful society we have become. Either you are for LBGT or you are supposed to shut up. Sorry media, you can try as much as you want, but unless the governing rules change in the US, it is not minority rule.
it's not "majority rule" either. If it was, black people would still be slaves and women wouldn't be voting.
Actually the "LGBT population" DOES see it that way. Mr Cathy is perfectly entitled to state his opinions and to support whatever hate groups he wants with his dollars. Just as WE have the right to speak loudly against his stance and prevent our dollars from benefiting him or his evil causes. It's a constitutional right we ALL enjoy – just as should be all other civil rights including marriage (the Supreme Court has repeatedly stated that marriage IS a civil right BTW).
Bev, I totally agree with Mr. Cathy's right to express his opinion, my point is concerning whether or not he feels it is 'okay' to accept money received by those who are gay that visit or work at his establishment(s).
The Cathy's and CFA have never, ever said anything against the gay community. Find where they said something directly against homosexuals. They haven't. The only thing they said is they support the traditional family definition and that they've always done so, simply put, they believe marriage should be between a man and woman as the Bible teaches. That in no way says they personally hate gays, they employ homosexuals all across the country and have no problem serving you as kindly as they do anyone else, so quit twisting things around to fit your own hateful agenda.
Mr Cathy has said that gay people don't deserve to be married – that is saying something against the gay community. But he has spoken much more loudly with his dollars by contributing to hate groups like Focus on the Family which actively tries to take away the civil rights of LGBT people and spreads lies and misinformation to influence people into thinking there is something "wrong" with them. So Chik-fil-a can die a slow and painful death as far as I am concerned.
He did NOT say that...again, totally twisting his words around. He said he supports the traditional man/woman marriage, now that may imply he's against gay marriage but you cannot say he said that because he didn't.
And I'm 99.9% sure you've never watched anything produced by Focus on the Family because they're the furtherest thing from a hate group as I've ever seen. Hate is exactly what the LGBT is doing now...shameless slander and skewing the truth to force someone to sway from their beliefs. Hmmm..when you act agressively against someone based on their beleifs, isn't that bigotry??? So the LGBT are exactly what they're claiming Mr. Cathy to be....bigots!
That sandwich and fried looks disgusting compard to Chik Fil A. Chik Fil A wouldn't serve anything that looked like that, and every time I've been there, the employees are super polite and attentive and the food fresh and delicious. That's supposed to be why you go to a restaurant. Maybe this guy is just using the gay agenda to push his own agenda of marketing his inferior restaurant.
Maybe you and Dan Cathy were turned down by your Gay lovers, and thus jilted, resort to bigotry in a show of defiance.
Yeah, and probably got turned down because they offered their gay lovers that disgusting looking sandwich.
Leviticus 11:7And the pig, though it has a split hoof completely divided, does not chew the cud; it is unclean for you.
Chick-fil-A Bacon, Egg & Cheese Biscuit
Delicious strips of smoked applewood bacon along with a folded egg and cheese served on a freshly baked buttermilk biscuit.
Acts 10:13-15: Then a voice told him, "Get up, Peter, kill and eat." "Surely not, Lord!" Peter replied. "I have never eaten anything impure or unclean." The voice spoke to him a second time, "Do not call anything impure that God has made clean."
Christy isn't a jew. You seem to be confusing old testament mosaic law with new testament post fulfillment christian ethic. It's ok that you don't understand, but it's just plain wrong for you to pretend that you do.
Kind of like pretending you understand the gay community by labeling them as "genetic disorders", right Steve?
Just like all these "christians" keep quoting the old testament to defend their discrimination against LGBT people..... duh!
arche has demonstrated such appalling ignorance in making a comment on something he/she hasn't got a clue about. Typical for many cnn posters...
Cathy has a right to his views and opinions as long as they don't break the laws of our land in America.
As long as he does not refuse to allow a homosexual or a bisexual from being hired based on their religion, sex and etc! People have the right to shop where they feel comfortable so they may or may not go to his store, and likewise for the Hearty Boys. We should not let politics become a vechicle of hate. Cathy, as well as the Hearty Boys have their right guranteed by our government to have their own beliefs, but those views may influence who they can sell to and who purchases their products. That's American business!!
So which side is guilty of hate speech? The side claiming that homosexuality is abnormal, or the side claiming that Christians are bigots?
My Son is gay, and I can't think of a kinder, more truthful, family orientated Man whom God must surely love, at least as much as I do.
The issue as I see it, is someone who has put his hand, and his money, against this community, and disapproves of them making families for themselves because the parents are not man and woman. I am familiar with members of the LGB community who have adopted children. These families very often adopt those children who are 'unacceptable" to the wider "straight' community because of the challenges they face, i.e: physically or mentally challenged; bi-racial; older; born of drug or alcohol dependant mothers.
I don't dare speak for God, but Jesus said. – "What you do for the least of my children, you do for me".
If you're prepared to adopt these children who were discarded by presumably 'straight' mothers and fathers, and are prepared to love and nuture them unconditionally, then fight to ban gay marriages,if not, step aside.
In the end Dear Mother, it is this quality of inclusiveness, acceptance, love, and tolerance that makes you obsolete in America. The founding fathers may have been proud of you, but the rabidly ignorant masses will not be.
America should be defined by freedom and open mindedness, not by Christianity or by edicts issued by a group of illiterate tea baggers. The spirit of inclusiveness and acceptance is the same spirit that has spurred achievement and invention.
Gays should be allowed at the same rights as heterosexual people. We hold these truths to be self-evident.
Thank you for your post.
Thank you for that beautiful statement.
Americans shouldn't be fighting gay marriage. They should be fighting the US goverment to stop marring people to begin with in the first place. It wasn't until the latter part ofthe 1800's that the goverment got involved, trying to stop interatial marriages. American's should have stopped it right then and there. Then the new deal came along and governement completely took over who you can marry, who you can designat at a benaficary, etc. Time to take the governement out of marriage completely- true seperaton of church and state. Not some montra speak. Everyone can designate a non related, adult age partner for all Governement and insurance benifits. Divorce laws changed to handle partnerships that are disolved. Churchs perform marriages, so if your LBGT and you want to get married. Find a church that will marry you, there are plenty. Then the judgement is between you and God, where it belongs.
I agree with you! Therer are 3 Lesbians in my family and they are the best Mothers you could find. How sad it is that people can't see the good and only want to shove their insensitive remarks down people's throats who they DON'T EVEN KNOW! Just reading these anti gay posts, shows me that you have perverted ideas about gays and lesbians. Did Christianity teach you that? How do you know all these things you pretend to know? I am a Christian, not a fanatic Christian like some of you. I can say with confidence, from seeing with my own eyes, that the people you choose to put down only want to live a life with equal rights. You may have your opinion, but don't bully people with it. I think God would much prefer if you treated one another with compassion and love instead of HATE! Get another hobby!
I will never forget that I am an American,responsible for my actions,and dedicated to the principles which made my country free. I will trust in my God and in The United States of America.
I love my country but fear my Government
You Fear what You cannot See.......
...you fear what you cannot see? Is that a reference to that god thingy that told Caty to disrespect gays?
I am proud of my country made free by the genocide of one people and the enslavement of another.
Sadly,War can be defined in many ways.
As much as we hate some of our history, this is also a contry the freed teh people that were enslaved. Saved the world twice, and liberated people that were truely forced into genocide. What happened to the American indians was not genocide in those terms. Disease from contact with Europeans played a large roll.
We're not proud to have you as an American. Your views are warped and twisted.
I wonder if Mr. Cathy has read the Gay Creation Story, which, after centuries of suppression, can finally be told. It is called "Fixed Stars Rise," and it is available at Amazon.
Unlike you, Mr Cathy is a true American who doesn't read or travel, to avoid polluting his pristine ideology. That's why we proud Americans stand with Mr Cathy.
Seems like you know him personally, and apperently all Americans. You are so proud to be one but are discussed by everything America has done in the past and you must feel hurt. Yet, you get to sit at a computer or own a smart phone and have access to the internet. You even get to type any message that will make it past GNN sensors. What a horrible contry, how can you be proud?
LOL.... you crack me up!
I still have not had anyone explain to me how come two same sex partners have to have the same name for thier union as a man and a women. I am only saying that "marrage" is the name of something unique between a man and a women. Someone did say that marrage was the civil union of a loving couple, but I believe that is redefining marrage, I believe the proper definition is "the legal union of a man and a women as husband and wife". All this said I am completely fine as long as I am allowed to refer to a union of same sex partners as a "homosexual-marrage" or "gay-marrage", and not as husband and wife but "gay-partners." Is this okay!!! I will state this specifically when I meet these folks and would expect they would not get angry at that.
It's simply this: "separate but equal" isn't equal. Thousands of laws are defined using the word "marriage" and people tend to go by the letter of the law. If you go somewhere & tell them you are in a "civil union" they assume that since you are not "married" that you don't have the same rights even when in some states you do. This has become very clear in the case of New Jersey where couples in civil unions have been repeatedly refused rights they are entitled to because they were not "married" and the other party didn't understand (or in may cases didn't want to understand) that they had the same rights as married couples. If the word didn't matter then we wouldn't care, but it DOES matter and all couples should be treated equally under the law. Apparently it requires the use of the word "marriage" to accomplish this.
Peter Tchaikovsky and Alan Turing were gay. I'm glad Chick Fil A trying to pray the Gay away. Imagine having to endure Swan Lake and to have to comprehend the Theory of Computation. So un-American (in fairness one of them was a Russian). Arts and science are both un-Christian and un-American : creation of commie tree hugger liberals. We like to live naturally in America the way nature and God intended us to.
Same sex marriage is un-American. Just the same as gun control, health care for those who can't afford it, belief in Darwin's theory of evolution, a uniform tax code, a Graduate Degree (reserved for the elite) and a knowledge of English Grammar. Chick Fil A has taken a bold stand in standing up for American values. And they make me proud.
LOL.... still cracking me up!!
Well now kimberlyclack adds another brillant comment.
Guess what. I've heard enough of the sick disgusting gay crap. Since the gays are so proun of themselves go do the sick things you do and enjoy it. Just keep your mouths shut about it and stop trying to force your sick lifestyle on others. Most people don't approve of the gay lifestyle, they don't support you and don't like you or want your sick perverted ways paraded in front of their families and children. It was ADAM and EVE not ADAM and STEVE! Adam and Steve can't reproduce, they couldn't "go forth and multiply" as God said to do. So with that in mind it certainly doesn't appear as though the gay lifestyle is normal now does it? I wonder how long you sickos would last on an island all by yourselves before you all became extinct.
Right on bro. We bigots would procreate effortlessly. And we'd make sure we'd raise a lot of little bigots on an island together in one happy in-bred family.
yup, them thar [sic] get married, get lots of little off spring, and then, as the statistics tell us , close to 60% of those christian families get a divorce. Hard to deny facts, they sometimes hurt.
If as is claimed this country is overwhelmingly christian, then by default the majority of those divorces happen to christian families. Go figure
@Semper Fi, how HILArIOUS, you want CNN to kiss your c.rack? You MUST BE Gay!!
Yea I'm sure Jesus would be real proud of you and your bigotry there buddy.
Who do you think is giving birth to all the gays? So, then putting them on island would solve your problem how? It would be a very fun island.
I am seriously tired of this. Most people don't hate gay people. Most younger Republicans don't hate gay people. Most young Republicans actually agree that gay people should be allowed to get married. The moment we defined marriage as a legally binding contract (that's what it is according to the government), we had a civic responsibility to redefine that definition as the social and legal climate changed. This is not the 1950s anymore. This is the 2010's. Things have changed a lot. I have had enough of this hate from "Christians". I am a straight man, and the main reason why I am loath to say I am "Christian" is because of the people like you that can't shut that hate spewing filth-filled hole in your face. Nowhere in the Gospels does Jesus decry homosexuality... nowhere. And Paul? Let's talk about Saul (Paul), the 13th Apostle. Someone who spent half his life helping the authorities brutally kill Christians before he became one. Do you really want to quote Romans I and II knowing that now?
I would bet you cannot wrap your choked mind around this, but, bisexuals can reproduce.
@Ken coo coo
Considering the fact earth is doomed to be overpopulated in the near future, probably already overpopulated, the gays may help save the human race by slowing down the process :)
So, Ken, are you saying that a man and woman shouldn't be able to get married if they cannot produce children??? I think that's what I got out of your logic, so older Americans or those with reproductive troubles shouldn't bother?? If you want to "protect" marriage, you should push for the total ban of the practice of divorce!!
So Adam and Eve had their off spring, and those darn kids the fornicated with each other and committed incest? (nobody else around to fool with) Isn't the bible against incest? Didn't Noah do his daughter or so, as well?
I'm pretty sure, according to the Bible, that Eve had something like 63 children......with about half of them being female.
Always cracks me up when people turn to the Bible to state their case. If Adam and Eve were the first two people on the planet – did the remainder of our poulation come from incestual relationships? I don't see any other way it could have happened – if you believe what is written. That is a lot more twisted than anything the gay and lesbian community is doing....
PEOPLE NEED TO STOP HATING SO MUCH!!
Adam and Eve had over 90 children and yes, brothers and sisters did marry, however 'incest' wasn't an issue then because the bloodlines were pure and had none of the issues that would result as we have today. Had to be done to populate the earth.
God ceased inter-family marriages at the time of Abraham and Sarah.
I'm guessing Ken made it all the way through 3rd grade before he entered adult life!
What do you do for a living, Ken? I'm sure it took years of education to acquire the skills needed to do whatever you do.....maybe 3 or 4 weeks of really intense studying.
Please don't come back and post that you are a Doctor or Lawyer – your post made it all too clear that you are about as dumb as a rock.
Ken, sweetie, you heteros do the same "sick disgusting" things that we gays do.... love each other, raise families, pay taxes, build homes and communites, etc. You also do the same "sexual" things we do – and since there are more of you, a lot more of you are doing them than us.... So pot, realize your own blackness before pointing to the kettle!
when did gay become synonymous with homosexual? Are they happy all the time ? attempt to normalize aberrant behavior.
Actually we do seem to be happier on average than most of the heteros I know.... not ALL the time of course, but quite a lot of the time.
I don't get the backlash here.... I mean, a man was talking to a baptist newspaper.... and somehow the media picked up part of what he said and people are going crazy over it. I don't understand how being "for" something it means your "anti" something else. Of course, I don't get the whole fight to begin with... I find America has much bigger problems at hand with more serious consequences. Easy solution... all unions in the eyes of the government be "civil unions".... after all, statistics show 50% end up in cilvil court. Then let the Christians have their term... "Marriage." This fight over one word seems ridiculous. Gay people have no problem labeling themselves as Gay.... Christians have no problem labeling themselves as Christians.... In the image maintenance society we have become.... Let each have their own label for marriage too. Then... maybe we can move on and get to matters that really effect this future of this nation... Like our national debt, the fact our schools are sub-par and our kids can't compete in the global economy, or the poverty that no one likes to talk about... or even see. Those... are much bigger problems than this.
You are spot on my dear. If only the rest of the class would do their homework. :)
If you were being discriminated against based on your life, I think you would feel differently about this not being a big issue. Also we have learned as a country that seperate but equal does not work, so why should we forget about our past lessons now. We teach our children history for a reason, so that we don't make the same mistakes twice.
Oh but I am being discriminated against. I'm a straight white American christian middle class guy. This means I get ignored by the government, demonized by the leftist minorities that make up the demo base, hated by you. and divested of my assets if I get tired of paying for other people's abortions. I think you should get over your genetic disorder. I'm equally sick of the gay marriage struggle being compared to the black struggle for civil rights. Being black is not a genetic disorder.
Same boat as Steve and see the discrimation all the time. Somewhere it became the norm to hate white middle class men to get back for what previous generations have done.
Poor Steve. I'm a straight white middle class American as well......
I am extremely successful, I don't hate people because of their sexual preference, I don't claim that gay people have a "genetic disorder" and thus should be treated poorly, and I certainly don't feel discriminated against by my own country....
I am not, however, Christian.
It appears that your religious views are holding you back, Steve.....must be some kind of disorder.
Actually the only discrimination I have seen against white middle class men has come from the very rich and large corporations. Over the last 40 or so years they have continuously pushed this group further and further down the economic ladder. Folks who were considered "upper" middle class 25 or so years ago have now slipped to lower middle class – and those who used to be in the "lower" group are now into the poverty levels. This has been a direct consequence of the continued push for "supply side" economics and corporate deregulation from wealthy "conservatives". This setup guarantees the continued growth of their wealth at the expense of everyone below their economic standing. It can't continue forever and will eventually collapse. The recent recession was a direct result of these policies.
Being ignored and being told that you can't do something that everyone else is allowed to do is very different so please stop trying to play the victim you sound stupid. You are only demonized because you spout ignorant sh*t, do some real research and not just looking at other religious zealots. I don't hate you but I do hate the actions that you take and the others like you, the gay people of america do not affect you, if gay marriage is legalized your church does not have to marry homosexuals and you can live can live in you sad hatred filled bubble.
I agree. Take it out of goverment hands. Let churches marry people, and there are churches that will marry LBGT people. So then our relationships and our actions go back to being judged by God.
"I don't understand how being "for" something it means your "anti" something else."
Here's your explanation:
1. When you say you are "for traditional marriage", everyone knows what you mean is that you are against same gender marriages. Of course being "for traditional marriage" sounds better than being "anti gay marriage", but everyone knows those phrases mean the same thing.
2. When your business donates millions of dollars to groups that are actively working against gay marriage, it is presumed that you and your business are also against it.
Once again, Laurie, "separate but equal" is NOT equal – never has been, never will be.
Its nice to see an article that's on the same page with me and hopefull others. As a lesbian I respect that Dan Cathy had every right to state his beliefs. I how ever don't respect and take complete issue with the company saying they're inclusive adn respect everyone but like the author said..take our dollars and turn them against us. Its like saying your all about local business's and fair wages but you love to shop at Walmart a destroyer of both.
No its not the same. Business owners make money and run a business to do just that. How they invest the profits is up to them. If you don't want to eat there that is your right. I have never seen anyone treated with disrespect at a Chick-Fil-a, including LBGT. I live in Houston so I probably see more LBGT people in a week than most Americans see in a year. Its a resturant, and they treat everyone the same. If you want to stop eating there in protest, go ahead. Mr. Cathy has done nothing wrong.
its because he spoke against gay marriage,it would be okay if he had his beliefs but kept them to himself.I myself don't care about gay marriage if you want to marry that's fine by me gay or straight.
See, you've hit the nail on the head there without knowing it. This is exactly how liberals are. Everybodies welcome to have an opinion as long as it's theirs. Free speech is great until it bothers them.
Just as you are bothered by what "ash" says, right Steve?
Pot calling the kettle black.....
Why stop at Chik-a-fil? Let's stop buying McCain products, how about all those other chains owned by hater-Republicans? This is the best form of protest, those people only care about money.
Chic-fil-homosexual day, sure know how twist words.
This is what I don't understand.... You say Republican haters.... yet, you sound a little hateful yourself? Your argument cuts both ways, and the hypocrisy of this entire situation is showing the insanity of where our country is at.
What about the fact Rahm Emanuel stating his contempt with Chick Fil A... yet you see him by Louis Farrakhan, Nation of Islam leader... who has made very public statements on his opinion of gay marriage / people. So... Chick Fil A is not what Chicago needs but Louis Farrakhan and his opinion is? Really....
Sorry folks... Think this is a huge political game for the politician.... given it's 2012. To bad people's lives are being played with.... Not just those who are gay, but the owners and workers of Chick Fil A
What a ridiculous comment. Comparing people who hate bigotry to bigots. How stupid can a person be?
Apparently stupid enough to ignore the fact that Rombo is in bed with Farakahn who openly despises gay people and gay marriage yet get all up in arms about a chicken sandwich. I'll grant you it's more ok to hate a chicken sandwich than it is gay people. But Rombo talks out both sides of his mouth and is just trying to make up to what is probably his disgust with himself for shaking Farakahns hand by trying to beat more chikin. Me? I'll celebrate their anti chicken day by taking my entire family to chik fil a for dinner as it's just ridiculous enough to deserve a response.
Of the chicken eaters some perfer Chicken Olay for quality and cleaness and Christian bashing won't influence their choice of eating places at lunch time. But assumeing it could, do those other people really want to have morals alone determine where our money is spent? Those who practice the Christian faith can be compared to the silent manority and something like this may be all it takes to awaken them.
There is no reason that Christians should lash out at the gay community. Christians should not choose to be enemies with any group. There is reason to speak out in favor of families and to promote laws that protect Christianity, but no reason at all to blast people they disagree with. Even if the gays are blasting Christians. Remember who you are.
if Christians don't approve of gays they should have their tubes tied or practice abstinence because any couple can conceive a gay child. There is no way to prevent it. There is nothing sadder than an unloved or un-accepted child. Christians need to stop having children, they are only contributing to the gay "problem"
Some Christians .. and you know who you are . .. bash gay people because deep down inside they have had gay thoughts. Look at recent history. Think back on how many religious and political leaders who speak and organize against gay marriage and homosexuals in general end up getting busted themselves. Wouldn't it be nice to live in a country where people didn't care if Adam married Steve.
As you correctly observe my proud American friend, Gays are a separate group from Christians. No Gays are Christians. And every Christian is a straight laced hetero. And only Christians can be Americans. And Americans cannot be Gays. There's a complex Venn diagram here but it makes sense to all of red blooded Americans proud to be free and at home in the land of the free to be like us.
A very narrow minded view my friend. You are entitled to your opinion, but it is just that an opinion. The fact is that there are millions of Gay Americans and millions more Gay Christians throughout the world. Not my opinion, just the facts.
You know, 'Proud to be American', I think some of your hardcore stance against the 'liberal commies' and 'the gays' speaks more about your own insecurities as a person.
Aside from that, you seem out of your mind. I guess I will content myself to believe you are a 15 year old troll who lashes out just for attention.
PS – As a heterosexual born in CT, I fancy myself just as American as anyone else who has met the citizenship requirements put forth by the Constitution, and I look forward to fighting all that you claim to stand for.
Why do liberals hate Christians? because they don't agree that you should be with the same sex? I mean after all we were given different body parts. Why should we take the cure when you are the one with the problem and confusion of whet gender to be with?
Why do liberals hate Christians? because they don't agree that you should be with the same gender? I mean after all we were given different body parts. Why should we take the cure when you are the one with the problem and confusion of whet gender to be with?
You wanna talk about hate and bigotry? Scroll through the comments-most of the hateful and bigoted posts are from those who claim to be on "the right side of history". If you don't agree with the owners of Chick-fil-a, don't eat there. Let the marketplace decide. You don't want Christians to force their beliefs on you-fine-but don't try to force your beliefs on them. BTW, the Chick-fil-a in my town, which is in that bigoted, conservative, bibletarded place known as Baltimore County, Maryland had the drive-through line backed up out onto the main road. Keep boycotting, folks-Chic may have a record year thanks to you!
Looking at the picture, I would not eat there. The fries are wrinkled, thin, and some appear to have come from an over ripe potato. The breaded fish sandwich looks horrible. Wouldn't it be wonderful for all the towns that have a Chick-fil-A to have gay parades end at these resturants and put on an hour or two show for the Chick-fil-A customers.
Actually, the fries look good. Chik-fil-A has good sandwiches, but their waffle fries are not very good.
Since the article wasn't obvious enough for you...let me point out that the picture shows food from the gay restaurant...not Chick-fil-A...but I agree, it does look awful.
I've been to Hearty when in Chicago on business, and the food was lousy and WAY overpriced.
It's interesting, there is not one cogent, analytical, well supported argument against gay marriage in this entire thread. It's all a bunch of "the bible says...", "Gays are disgusting"... "Jaysus said.." Interesting and very telling.
As a proud American, ignorance is my birthright. Who says I need to make a cogent argument? Only the commies and the liberals. Sheesh.
Rob, how can you support the insupportable? This is the same argument the creationists sling when trying to support their arguments. They have no science to support their claims, just faith. Sadly that's not enough for those of us with anything resembling an education.
being gay is not like your hispanic, white, or black. its a preference. so if i think men dating men is nasty, it doesn't mean i hate the person. i just dont agree with what they do or like. if i dont like pepsi am i gonna get protested by all the pepsi drinkers??
Very true. Just as being ignorant, intolerant and bigoted is a preference and my right, and I intend to exercise it to uphold my constitutional freedom and my God. If we all fall for this inclusiveness and equality for all, we'll soon lose our guns, our freedoms, and our taxes will go up along with our IQs.
yet it isnt a preference. It isnt a choice.
If you think otherwise, please explain when you made the conscious decision to be straight. Please explain why hom...o...se...xu...ality runs rampant in the animal kingdom. Are they preferring to be gay rather than straight?
You guys have bought into your own lies. You're drinking the Kool Aid and think that it's unchangeable and the animal kingdom is full of self fulfilled gays.
You are clearly uneducated, homosexuality is present in several different species of animals.
Amen! Thank you. Too many people are afraid to say that it is a LIFE STYLE. So you're born that way... big deal. It doesn't mean you have to live that way. Sandusky was a pedophile . He didn't have to live it out.
You cannot compare being in a consensual relationship to being a stagitory rapist, homosexuals could live their life in the closet but it's definitely not your place or anyone else's to choose that life for them.
There are way more Christians than gays in this country.
and there are way more muslims in the world than christians....what is your point?
We have finally addressed the following: world hunger, child abuse, cancer, oil prices, the election, democrats, republicans, terrorism, veterans, homelessness, weak economy, global warming, crime rate, unemployment just to name a few so that now we can argue about a chicken eatery owner and stating his beliefs with no impact to his employment or his customers. Wow, we really know where to focus our efforts. On the important stuff like this... (sarcasm for those who aren't catching it) For Christians, like myself, you won't win any over in this blog. For the non-Christians, you won't convert any of us here. You don't like what the CEO of CF said, don't eat there. If you do, eat there. Find something that is impactful and invest your time in that. This is rediculous.
Whatever. They aren't going to open any new ones without a fight, and the old ones are going to lose money. I suspect that they will close about half their units and restructure, and that Bubba Cathy will have less money to give his lobbyists from now on.
So when can we expect the Christian Pride Day at your restaurants? If you are so inclusive?
In keeping with his point, you can expect Christian Pride day at his restaurant right after a major national chain expresses its view that Christians aren't entitled to the same rights and freedoms as everyone else.
How nobel...and stupid.
The gays can go get their weines fried the worthless bong hole bleeding perverts...I like this place to go to eat...on my out the door right now to go there...LOL!
Another bigot who shuns spelling coz we don't need no educatification. An American I am proud to call my fellow American. You go to that Chick Fil A coz we are the land of the free for the people like us.
Or maybe you are kinda fabulous and you hope that being seen near Chick-Fil-A will help you with the ladies? Pro Tip: stop choking your chicken; ladies can tell if you do that.
Ya mean the chix notice my hunched back and hairy palms?
Haha... Comparing your crap restaurant to chik fil a. They can afford to lose business. You can't afford not to do business.. Enjoy hell!!
Preach it Keith!! I totally agree, you have a wonderful day!
Don't worry Karma is a bitch. Best Buy stood by Michael Vick too. Look at how they are going bankrupt. Size didn't help them either. Evil will go down. Bye Bye Chick Fil A.
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