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See, now isn't that much different than a lot of the "drive-thru" weddings that others have? Really it's easy to project your ideas and feelings about another in a certain situation (we as a species not y'all as individuals), much harder to look at it from the other side of the coin. Not every person will work hard for a marriage, or even stick with a marriage (50% divorce rate, anyone?). Some moms kill their kids. Some dads high tail it out of kids' lives. This mom decided she couldn't take it and ran away.
And about the sex thing... I'm not a christian by any means, but wouldn't it have something to do with temptation and following the righteous path?
Great story! Glad you had a nice converstation with your Mom. Sorry to hear about the diagnosis.
If anyone is still here........I saw part of the interview on Today as well. I had actually heard about her before. The only thing I really had a hard time grasping was her children were 3 and 5 when she decided that she didn't want to be full time hands on mom. My three are 3, 4 and 5 and I can't imagine not seeing them everyday. As I was sitting on the couch this afternoon with my sick 3 year old, my thoughts turned back to this mother. I was wondering how her 3 year old coped with missing his mommy. I can't imagine my kids having to understand that I would not be coming home to them.
I feel the same way (albeit I don't have children). However, not all women get that mother-y feeling. I don't condone it but I can kind of see how it could be possible for her to just not be able to handle it.
I think all mothers have days when they just aren't "feelin' it" and sometimes it may last more than one day. I should do some more research, but I'm wondering if she ever saw a therapist, maybe she had some lingering post-partum depression. I definitely don't want to judge her for her choice, my heart just aches her babies when they were missing her.
We are trying, so it hit home for me pretty ahrd. How can you walk down the aisle, work to conceive and raise (for at least a few years) and then walk away? Of course, being male, if I say that, I get branded a chauvinist pig, etc, so I was curious to see what women were saying.
I agree with both of you.
On the flip side though, not all men are inherently dead-beat dads just because of their gender, so why would all women be cut out to be nurturing and stick-with-it moms?
EXCELLENT point! I have often thought that given that I married a foreigner, I have had to WORK for it....We actually were married twice, once in VN, once here a year later when she finally got her visa. We often talk about how we could not have rushed into it, as we had to work hard for our marriage. I sometimes think that child conception should have been designed the same way, so as to prevent people from getting into it lightly and without full consideration.
When I get to the hereafter, one of my first questions for my Creator will be just that: If you knew that people would use sex lightly or negatively, why did You make it so (usually) pleasurable?
That's an interesting first question........... :)
I always say that parenting is the hardest job there is. And I used to be an air traffic controller. So, I know a little bit about hard jobs. But, it is also the most rewarding. My sick 3 year old told me he loved me about 50 times today. Maybe it just made him feel better to say it.
(CRY!)
I actually just talked to my Mom who just yesterday turned 79. She called to thank us for the flowers we sent. Three years ago, she was diagnosed with Alzheimer's, and some days are better than others. Today she was pretty lucid, and was recounting how when I was three I had to wear an eye patch to correct a lazy left eye. She used to wrap chocolate chip cookies in a napkin, and hide them somewhere in the house, I would "play pirate" by looking for this "buried tresure". Made me just short of downright sob hearing her recount this. Someone way brighter than I am once said that you never quite stop being a kid as long as your parents are still around. They were right.
Thanks for your thoughts. I had a rare day at home today, as my Bride has the flu, so I stayed home to get in her way...:)
I saw the interview on "Today" and then used The Google to do a little research. I walked away thinking that as a society, I think we attach WAY too much importance to parenthood...That is not to sya we respect it, but rather we expect people to just go blindly into it. I wish her family the best. I was curious to hear women's opinions. (most of my close friends are female, and I usually refer to them as my "panel of experts")
See attached:
http://www.momlogic.com/2011/03/rahna_reiko_rizzuto_hiroshima_in_the_morning.php
The woman's name is Rahna Reiko Rizzuto, and Today interviewed her about how she was working temporarily in Japan and decided to give up her family to stay. She was pretty heavily rationalizing that she did not harm her kids, and I am curious to see the opinions of some of the ladies here...
Thoughts?
We each have brief seconds/minutes contemplating walking away from family but she is by far the exception. I've known a LOT of people but only one who did walk away from hubby/kids/life(and this was after losing a child to an accident). She must have a lot of guilt.
First of all, I didn't watch the entire interview. I think she hit the nail on the head with the statement " I never wanted to be a mother". Women are still expected to marry and have kids, they're looked at as oddities if they choose a different path. There is also a belief that motherhood = love. I think you can hate being a mother but still love your children. In this situation I think she probably did make the best decision for all involved. Over time her resentment towards motherhood and all of it's various ties would have spilled over on to her children. While I wouldn't make the same choice she did, I'm also not in her shoes (thankfully).
I couldn't watch the video because I am at work, but from the comments below the video, it looks like she moved back to the states at some point and now lives a block down the road from her kids and has joint custody.
Either way, it is horrible what she did. If I were her child, I would not accept her back into my life. If I ever lost my skippy little mind and did that, I would not expect my child to accept me back either. You can't waltz in and out of a child's life at your whim and expect no damage to be done.
My TGIT, going to San Diego tomorrow for a week!
Afternoon all! What all have you been up to while I was out?
Tazer is sunbathing, RichHead is doing a building project I am playing nursemaid and Ihave something I wanted to ask you in particular...Did you see the woman on MSN's main page today, who walked away from her hubs and kids...?
I just checked and didn't see anything. What was the story about?
Whereabouts do you live? Besides on the hood of Rich's SUV. ;)
Central Coast, CA. And you?
West Central Florida – born & raised. [shaking hands] Now I understand you take a tanning break at lunch.
Yeah, sorry about the Narc-ing. You SAID you wanted to make in impression ........ LOL!!!!!
Ooo Florida....
Yeah it's been super chilly and rainy the last few days, so stocking up on natural vitamin D ;) seemed like a wise course of action. I'm born and raised CA, though I did a stint in Sin City for part of Middle/High School.
So, tell me more about yourself (insert creepy voice here). :)
Woo just spent my lunch hour basking in the sun. Ahhhh.....
You left a dent in the hood of my SUV while you were basking on it. Please contact your insurance agent. HA!!!!!!
You should memorialize it, it's an imprint of my butt.
After taking numerous digital pictures,I am having 16×20's printed as we speak. Any frame preference?
Gilded, please. The butt deserves it.
And over there in the other half the girls made a showing, too. Thanks for Narc-ing on me, alee! haha
You told me you were laying on your stomach! That's not a butt print .....
I meant the one about Westboro Baptist...I understand why they consider it free speech, but I do not have to like it...Sometimmes what is best about America is also the hardest abotu America...
Is everyone else as outraged by the SCOTUS decision that was announced yesterday?
The Supreme Court does not seem to understand the difference between Human Rights and Privacy. Wait till they have to decide on the Immigration Issue!
With regards to privacy?
"The Court stressed, in several different ways, that it was ruling only on the actual facts of the protest in this particular case, and no other. " -SCOTUS Blog
Good to know. >:-<
Good night, all...the sun is still shining and I am going to get a quick run in before the rain starts!
G'nite and happy jogging!
Continuing the dairy/dairy-free thread:
My fave flavor of the Purely Decadent IC was the cookie dough. Then suddenly our grocery store started carrying a chocolate peanut butter swirl flavor-using real peanut butter. I heard angels sing!! Yum!!
I thought I was addicted to dairy, too. But once I found out what foods were giving me problems, it was ALOT easier to give up those that were not-so-good for me. Thank goodness none of the foods cause me any anaphylactic problems.
I love peanut butter!! Going to check the store for it tonight. (read: hubby is stopping by the store, so he is picking some up tonight!) now to find a decent cheeze and complete the transition...I already enjoy Silk, but not in my coffee...it makes chewy lumps in coffee...
Peanut Butter!!!! I am going on a peanut butter bender this weekend and it will be AWESOME! I can't eat it on a normally basis cuz the boy is deathly allergic and I would miss him if I accidentally killed him.
I also do vegan baking, so if you are interested in tips Alee let me know. I have never done cupcakes but I have done regular cakes and cookies.
How is it going gang?
I have been out of the office all day playing Florence Nightengale...My bride has the flu. Next year, that woman gets a flu shot!
Then you DIDN'T get caught in your 501 button flies while shopping?
So sorry about your bride's flu. You're a nice hubby to take care of her.
Actually ordered new pants just now from Land's End. Got to love the internets...
How are you today?
Peachy – now that we all know you're safe and semi-sound!
Kor-El gave instructions
I believe that Truth has been captured in the Virtual Dressing Room of the Internets while trying on new pants last night. We must Unite to FREE him!!!!!!!!
Lettuce FREE the Incommunicado ONE!
And Truth shall be set free from the evil pants!!!!!!
Shouldn't Jerv & Jdizz be showing up 'bout now?.
I just sent a minion to scout them out.
Truth, Justice, and the American Way!
I'm with you! Spirit is also at the ready! We all have to gather together in the Virtual Dressing Room and free him from the evil pants!!
We can't tell the Queen tho! She'll think it's a Shopping Spree and we'll be there all day!
After teaching a class on sepsis, I think she may need a bit of retail therapy.
Maybe after we free Truth from his pants, we can just let Kweenie run free for a few hours. We can always send the minions back to the mall in the Humvee to pick her up later.
A Humvee? Surely you jest. It would take my Big Blue and a 53 foot trailer,plus I would have to pick up helpers at Home Depot on the way. That Queenie is a Shopping Diva!!!!!
Who knew that a simple pair of pants could unman him?
[Oh God! Somebody STOP me!!!]
You don't think he upgraded to 501 Button Fly Jeans do You?
That'd be OK if they're boot cut......
Good Point. It only takes one "nick" or embarrassing moment to scar a man for life.
Yep! I'll bet this is what happened:
He liked his new 501's so much that when he got 'em home, he put 'em on... then decided to fire up the grill. He then got too close to the fire while going commando just like MTM and ...... well ..... you can fill in that blank. ;)
I have warned him in the past about "Naked Grilling" at night time. My Brother never listens to me.
Lawn ornaments? Are you looking for other uses for militant vegans?
Don't you think that would be interesting? And I could dress them up as zombies for Halloween!
He!!! they'd probably thrive being planted in all that grass! And ..... when you use cow fertilizer to enrich your lawn, you can watch them spasm in protest!
There's that evil side coming out again. I need to come up with a name for that little devil. Suggestions Klatschers?
They'd be almost like venus fly traps.... responding to external stimuli... woo!
Aleenator
But they eat fly meat! Ewww! LOL!
LOL!!! Good thought, but it's too close to my "scream-name."
Nothing better than a good freak show
It's been quite the freak show this week. Just sayin'....
testing, testing, 1, 2, 3........
Even better, I was able to swipe my brother's speakers and hook them up to my computer.
Why?
The speakers themselves have a headphone jack next to the volume control on the side, so I can place the speakers on my desk and then plug into the speakers! Problem solved!
Swiping stuff from sibs is the BEST!!! Glad you don't have to practice yoga just to listen to your toons!
[Tool's "Vicarious" is playing now. That song is too short and cannot be played loudly enough!! That bass riff is the best!]
Good morning, y'all!
I think everyone is getting moderated because there is a new post about vegans and everyone knows the fangs and claws come out whenever someone thinks that word.
Morning! I agree, it's the vegan thread.
Naw - WordPress is just screwy today.
The hamsters int he little circular runner thingie must have died......
Glad you had a good day off!
What IS that thingie called?
A hamster wheel?
Makes sense.. Hamster Wheel it is......
Well folks, it's been fun. Heading to a client. I'm sure the vegan thread will be ripe with responses to my attempts to stir the pot later so i'll check in then.
Peace out!
Oh thank god, we're back. It would have been a loooong day if the little issue wasn't fixed.
It's good to know you have my back :)
It's so fun over there.
To all the vegans here....I love you all.
What is going on? It's cause they posted the vegan article, it's sucking the life out of the board.
Oh good! I thought it was 'cuz Kat hated avocados.
Militant vegans are great for paving your driveway. 'Course it depends on how thin you slice 'em.
I need some new lawn ornaments.
Phew....I couldn't reply to anything! It was horrible!
Can I post yet? I'll be good!!! I promise!
Didja figure out how to plug in your short-corded 'phones? Gotta have muuusik!
I found a headphone jack in the front of the computer tower. While the tower itself is on the floor and the jack is at the base of the tower, it doesn't really give me much wiggle room, but I can at least (whoa-whoa!~) listen to the music.
And I've been rewarded for my hard work with a short, but awesome, instrumental track. Much better!~
I hate extremists. ARGH!
Looks like someone's been on the vegan post...
apparently we already did the hard part. giving up meat was easy for me...giving up dairy tho??? I just don't see that happening on a full time basis anytime soon. I <3 Ben&Jerry
That was the easy part for me too! I sprinkle cheese on everything...even my popcorn, to tie into today's post...I love parmesan on my popcorn. I don't think I could go vegan...cheeze just isn't the same as cheese!
Ironic. ;) As much as I love cheese, I found out late in life that I'm allergic to cow's milk (not the same as lactose intolerance as our HR lady thought) & my calcium level is screaming high. So, as a rule, I've given up dairy. THAT wasn't easy. Giving up bread as a side to meals was easy. Giving up ice cream & cheese? Notsomuch.
What's awesome is I found a dairy free, coconut-based "ice cream" that I really like. "Purely Decadent" is the brand.
Every once in a while, I'll make a trip to Cold Stone and treat myself. That amount of dairy doesn't seem to upset my applecart.
Wow! I couldn't imagine if I was allergic to dairy! )though I am allergic to most things, so it wouldn't surprise me..) I am glad you can still treat yourself once in a while! I will have to give the "Purely Decadent" ice cream a try some time. Thanks for the tip!
I've tried that brand before and it is good, much better than most vegan "ice creams". My only issue was that regardless of flavor they all made my throat itch, which is normally a bad thing. I had to stop going to Cold Stone due to their nut policies...however this weekend the man is gone so I might have to make a stop there.
I try to eat vegan at least two or three times a week for health purposes, my cholesterol tends to run very high all things considered, but any longer than that and I get cranky. There is just something about Feta, Parm, Swiss, Ricotta, and Ice Cream that keep my hormones in check.
I think I may be a dairy addict. If I am low on parmesan for my popcorn, or milk to go with dinner, I send hubby to the store for more ASAP! Though, I think the biggest reason I can't go completely vegan (According to the posters on the other page) my couch is a black leather sectional... Shh! Don't tell Meg!
Mornin' Darlin'!
Howdy-do Girlfriend! it's really hard to communicate when you can't post.
I think my ESPN is broken.
[testing] Did I take up all the allotted space with my long-azz recipe?
I said good morning but it got moderated. :(
[test 3] can you hear me now?
Yay looks like we're back online! It's a conspiracy.
Naw – WordPress was just having a DOS attack.
DOS? Isn't that the system you play Pong on? I'm more of a Pac-Man girl myself.
In this case Denial Of Service, but I'm picking up what you're laying down.
Maybe it knows what an evil mood I am in today, its reading my thoughts
Seriously! It's been pretty mellow lately, they must have upped it's "evil" button.
Thats better, no clue why we went into a military state for a bit, lol
i cant post anything apparently
What's up killer? Potty mouth doing you in today?
No, I was just suggesting you stage a mock war with your minion fruit. I swear.
I only have two oranges and an apple...and a bunch of snap peas. and some grapes and strawberries. I could stage a mock battle!
The apples and oranges could be troll generals... the smaller fruits and veggies are foot soldiers. Problem solved :)
I'm on it! Except it has to be a short battle. I need to leave for a client soon.
My last post has nothing in it that should set it off and its awaiting moderation, dunno
serioulsy? 3x moderated? UGH
Noooo moderated 2 times right out of the gate! I think the mod-bot is telling me to go away.
Ergh already got moderated today for suggesting you stage a "mock batt.le" with your fruity minions.
I defaced my orange....or did I? I've drawn a face on it...so I didn't really deface it.
Still bored!
You suffering from an empty inbox too? it was nice when I got here, but now I am bored...maybe I will take an actual lunch today... Well, you didn't efface it, or surface it, or outface, preface or typeface it...I think you simply faced it!
You should see what I did to my apple....now where is Jdizz?
You should make an army of orange minions and stage a mock battle...
My orange is looking at me funny....
I've drawn eyes on it with a sharpie.
Bored!
Apparently I spoke to soon, more white stuff falling from sky, ughhhh.
Where's Truth this morning? It's not like him to be so late to the lounge.
Good question, maybe he went on a shopping bender to replace the pants.
Maybe he got arrested for indecent exposure on the bus last night?
Its possible, but I have seen stranger things in Denver
Any avocado advocates? ;) I've just recently become a fan of guacamole so this got my attention. The recipe below was in a Coastal Living mag I was reading last nite and thought it might be of interest to someone on the Klatsch Krew:
Chilled Avocado Soup
* 3 avocados, cut into chunks
* 3 cups chicken or vegetable broth
* 3 tablespoons fresh lemon or lime juice
* 1/3 cup fresh cilantro leaves
* 1 teaspoon ground cumin
* 1 teaspoon salt
* 1/4 teaspoon cayenne pepper
* Crab-and-Mango Garnish (below)
Prep: Combine ingredients in a blender, and process until smooth. Cover and refrigerate 2 hours or until completely chilled. Pour soup into serving bowls. Top each serving with Crab-and-Mango Garnish.
Crab-and-Mango Garnish
* 1/2 pound lump crab
* 1/4 cup chopped sweet onion
* 1/2 cup diced mango
* 2 tablespoons cider vinegar
* 1 tablespoon light olive oil
* 1 teaspoon salt
* 1/4 teaspoon black pepper
Prep: Combine ingredients in bowl; cover and chill.
I LOVE avocados, they are delish. I had some over the weekend on a greek pizza and they were just amazing. I am also a huge guac fan, and the mexican/tex-mex restaurants we go to are primarily based on how good their guac is.
This reminds me, I need to get popcorn when I go to the store next.
Hey, did any of you watch the 5@5 – Chef Chris Cosentino? A lot of the comments indicated that he was arrogant and condescending. I didn't come away with that, did any of you??
Just watched. Didn't find him condescending or arrogant. Sounded like someone who's been getting wanna-be interns who have been making bad first impressions on things that SHOULD be common sense if you know anything about working in a professional kitchen. Seemed like a reasonable guy.
Yeah, me too. I mean really, if you have to tell people to wear work appropriate shoes then the pool of talent can't be all that great, hence the hint of frustration I detected. Okay, I'm off to do battle yet again with our purchasing system.
It's possible they have seen him on other shows. He was on the new Bizare Foods the other night and didn't come off in the best light IMO. He also came off in a less than flattering light when he was on TC. However while his snout to tail philosophy isn't for me I do appreciate the fact that he really does use every part of the animal, minus the oink.
Good Morning, Klatschkeys!
My brother came back from the HAZMAT seminar or whatever it was. Which means that I'm back here at my old desk.
I need to figure out how I can plug in my headphones in even though the cord is really short... Pandora internet radio helps the day go along so much smoother, especially Thursdays...
Oooo, I haven't visited my Pandora station in a while – and my boss is out today! Thanks for the 'minder, Deej!
Godsmack Radio here I come ..... the first song on the list today is Battle of Ktulu! Cool!
Almost worrisome how warm it is here thsi morning, must be in the 40's here at the mine, maybe spring really will come finally!
Morning all!! Oooh! Oatmeal! Any blueberries to go with that? Looking forward to a quiet Thursday at the farm. An empty inbox is a beautiful thing!
Amen. "Happiness is an empty inbox."
Good morning, glories! I'm off work for the rest of the week! Yay me! Actually I have to go to teach a class this afternoon but I don't have to see anyone I work with and I'll be in a different building so I'm still counting it as being off work.
Ohhhhhh Nurse-Please rub it in Deeper,cuz us poor slobs still got 2 more work days. Want some coffee?
Yes, please, with cream and sugar.
Well Duhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!! How long have I been making and serving you coffee?
Well, in your old age I thought you might have forgotten. Plus, I know you service alot of other women. Ha!
Hey,Thanks for reminding me of my afternoon appointments. :)
What'r ya teachin, Teach?
Sepsis, severe sepsis and septic shock: Identification and treatment. It's for our new ICU nurses.
Yum! Between that and the meat head photo, I'm thinking a nice cobb salad's in order for lunch today.
New song for the class-" My Baby Can't Rock,'Cuz She's Got Toxic Shock" ! :)
Good morning all! I have some oatmeal and pancakes for everyone so enjoy! I'm having to remind myself that today is not Friday even tho my body is convinced that it is.
I second that. Where is the weekend? Thanks for the grub.
Morning! thank god I work 4 10's, it IS my Friday!
"Kat sat in a theater alone yesterday and ate popcorn...."
.... and watching a movie I hope. ;)
"... There are worse ways to spend a day. "
Heckyeah! Yesterday, some of us working stiffs found it to be a bad day for meetings, training, zippers & Charlie Sheen.
["Coulda been worse; coulda been raining"]
Peewee sits in theaters all alone all the time but he does not eat popcorn. (Wink wink, SirB.) What movie did she see?
Morning everyone.
Good Morning! Got coffee. Not sure how well that goes with popcorn.
Hey what's up little camper? Coffee is good, thanks. I hope Kat wasn't in a theater watching Cherry Potter. I'm thinking maybe she saw The King's Speech?
Jerv: Do you know if Kat goes for the award-winning movies? If so, is it because she likes them or because it's part of her job? questions, questions ...
RH: {Hey! We're over here!!!! Someone fire up the lighthouse for Sir Rich please? Follow the smell of the freshly brewed coffee .....} A story about popcorn that answers your long-sought-after questions would be a fun read!
Oh , don't get me started on popcorn! It just don't git no better'n dat!
MMMMMMMM-Coffee. Thank You! Lost WD in the fog this morning out in the backyard. Hope I don't step in anything!!
To the powers that be......Please turn off the fog machine. Almost drove past the house this morning. Maybe Kat was doing a story on Movie Popcorn–Do they use Real Butter? What type of Salt is this? Good Morning Everyone tho I can't really see you 'cuz of this Stooooooooopid Fog.
Yeah, that would make sense. A piece on movie theater popcorn. Did you run any road rats over getting home?
AleeD, I have no idea what Kat digs in movies.
Buddy I had every light I could use turned on around the truck and could still only see 10 feet in front of me. All the scales were closed tho,which didn't hurt my feelings at all. :)
Holy crap dude?! 10 feet of visibility? Oh, my pop used to hate the scales. The people that work them are such azzholes.