 5@5 is a daily, food-related list from chefs, writers, political pundits, musicians, actors, and all manner of opinionated people from around the globe. Since we just hit you with a pretty gut-punching interview with Chef Suvir Saran on the subject of HIV/AIDS activism and the disease's impact on the food world, we decided to lighten things up a bit this afternoon with a good old-fashioned food fight courtesy of the original shock jock, Steve Dahl. Besides being a popular radio personality, Dahl considers himself somewhat of a pizza aficionado - and now, he's throwing down the gauntlet declaring deep-dish Chicago-style pizza the best in all the land. What say you New York? Five Reasons Chicago Pizza is the Best: Steve Dahl 2. "The best part about Chicago pizza leftovers are that they reheat splendidly in the microwave, due to their thickness and consistency and you don’t have to do any work besides eat it again!" 3. "Chicago pizza can be used as a spare tire in a roadside emergency." 4. "It keeps us all fat and warm for when the Hawks blows off of Lake Michigan." 5. "Its origins are suspect, just like many of our politicians." Attention pie lovers: thick or thin crust? Lots of toppings or just cheese, please? Slice up the comments. Is there someone you'd like to see in the hot seat? Let us know in the comments below and if we agree, we'll do our best to chase 'em down. |
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has anyone ever been to DaVinci's in Knoxville??
WRONG. NY pizza is best.
Long Live New York.
Chicago sucks.
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I grew up on New York-styled pizza and I still believe it is the best when it is fresh. Thin crust or Sicilian... just awesome. However, after eating at Lou Malanti's in Chicago last spring, I have to admit that Chicago-styled pizza leftovers taste better than NY-styled pizza leftovers. The textures just hold up or heat up better the next day.
Chicagoans have the best thick pizza because they know you have to wait for it to cook a while. It's not Chicago pizza if after you order they don't say, "It's going to be an hour or more wait"
I'm a native Chicagoan, had my first pizza from Leona's in the early 50s, when they were still on Belmont.
Best pizza ever is Chicago style, thin crust, cut in squares (not wedges).
There is no better pizza than in Chicago.
I alternate between Salerno's (great cheese) and La Gondola (best overall).
I lived both in the east coast and here in Chicago. I can tell you right now, Chicago pizza is awful! Not just their deep dish but all of it. I have yet to find one that tastes like pizza should. They do something weird to the sauce here and even the thin crust is weird, it's like eating cardboard. Though nothing is as horrid as deep dish. Give me new york style any day.
don't know if anyone mentioned it or not.. but one of my pizza memories is the wonderful white pizza we had in Scranton, PA. Never have seen it anywhere else... White cheese ... two crusts... onion and I don't remember the sauce.. but that was so good.... wish I had one now.
My kid went to school at the Universityu of Missouri in Columbia. They had a place called Shakespears that had the best pizza ever. The ussed a whole wheat crust and just the correct about of cheese and toppings. nothing better
Chicago-style – whether pizza, hot dogs, whatever – is synonymous with "over the top". Only a Chicago blowhard always insists on loading everything on, whether it's a pizza or a hot dog with onions, tomatoes, peppers of various sorts, relishes, seasonings, mustard and KETCHUP. A bunch of flavors that don't go together and turn into nothing. Chicago-style means low quality, with lots of toppings thrown on to overpower discernment. I can handle about one slice of Chicago-style pizza before nausea sets in. It's just too much. Not so much the toppings, but the butter infused crust. It's sickening. That being said, I love thick crust pies with a normal, crispy/chewy base crust. In NYC it's called Sicilian. "Base" is the key. It supports everything else, and the flavor is hearty and simple, contrasting with the richer flavors of the sauce, cheese and toppings. With Chicago-style, on the other hand, everything – crust, sauce, cheese, toppings, melds into one big, sloppy, over-the top, nauseating mess. Also, the cheese. A pie from NYC uses good quality, flavorful mozzarella, Chicago-style uses cheep mozzarella with the consistency of window caulk – like any chain pizza. Get over it Windy City! You have always played second fiddle to the Big Apple.
PS: I do love Chicago and Chicagoans, but the food is over the top.
You mentioned Ketchup in the same sentence as hot dog. You should know that no "real chicagoan" would EVER put ketchup on a hot dog. (that oughta re-start the debate)
I agree with NYC Pizza comments. As someone who has lived in Chicagoland for over 50 years I love Chicago thin-crust pizza. Whether it is cut in squares or pie shaped pieces it is the best. Slightly yeast-tasting very thin crusty crust, not pre-made, with sauce and then cheese with mushrooms and sausage and peppers or pepperoni – it is much better than NYC greasy pizza and Chicago deep dish pizza – which I had never heard of until I was 15 yrs. old. My husband is a native of New Mexico & pizza there was awful – until new Chicago area inhabitants moved there. Same with Florida. Forget California altogether – why do they even bother?
Hard to take a middle -aged man with a Justin Beiber 'do' seriously.
Chicago also has the best hot dogs.
I live in Chicago and I have to say, it is NOT the best! First, Chicago pizza was invented by a guy from TEXAS after WWII. The reason they have pan style, which is a elaborate name for TOO MUCH DOUGH, is to make it look big. Why? Because they are the SECOND city and Chicago is always trying to be better than New York Pizza. NY has the best pizza, hands down. They have the tradition, they have a culture that adores pizza. Their are over 18,000 pizza places in NYC area. The same things can be said about the Chicago Hot Dog.
That said, Chicago does have some great food, great restaurants. The best steaks I've had in the US are in Chicago! The steakhouses are just great, lively places! You can wear jeans and a T shirt and go to the best steakhouses in the city! Also have some great deserts!
I'm sorry, but I'm going to have to ask you to leave the city of Chicago immediately and never return. Traitor. Sure, Chicago is called the Second City, but is first-rate in every way. Get out. Now.
I grew up in Cicero, right outside of Chicago, I've since moved south then to Oklahoma, and how I miss Chicago pizza! There's nothing like a nice stuffed pizza from Uno's, Giordano's, or some old school thin crust from Benny's in Berwyn! My mouth is watering just thinking about it!!!
Y'all need to try Youngstown pizza. And Ice Cream.
Spacca Napoli in Chicago makes one of the best true (Neapolitan style) pizzas I have had. Then again Patsy's (Grimaldi's) in Brooklyn does as well. So for true and original pizza, I'd consider it a tie. Both are only a small step behind Antica Pizza da Michele in Naples which defines perfection. Both are truly fantastic.
As a former resident of both Chicago and New York, I consider it a tie.
Dominos is #1, followed by Pizza Hut, and all other pizza is irrelevant..
You have got to be kidding right Tony ? DOMINOS ???? What have your taste buds quit working for you ? Or are you an employee of DOMINOS and you are being forced to type this ?
Do they even have Domino's in Chicago??? I've moved away in 1995, and I can't think of a Domino's or Pizza Hut in the City...maybe because I would not have ever though of a pizza chain living in Chicago!
Can't we just get along?? I'm a Chicago girl, and have had both Chicago-style and New-York style, and actually prefer New York style, but I'm not about to start arguing with everyone who likes Chicago-style. "No YOU'RE wrong" makes you sound like you're about 10 years old.
Growing up on the South Side of Chicago, I never had or even heard of "Chicago Pizza" until I moved out west. Only pizza I ever are was with a crisp crust, corn meal on the bottom, grease pooled on top, cut into squares. Was home last year and had some great stuff at a place on 95th and Halstead. My month is watering now. My cousins who still live in my old neighbor would never eat deep dish, that's for those on the North Side.
I have had both NY pizza and Chicago Deep dish. They are both great depending on what mood you are in. Sometimes the wife and I head out and get ourselfs some Lou Mals and sometimes we go to Gigios. Like lanuguage, food progresses. Get a life and enjoy it all you simpletons.
As far as toppings go, simple is better when you have a truly good pizza. You don't need a bunch of fancy junk- that stuff has its place in other foods. I love thin crust with fresh garlic and green olives. If you are eating with an anchovy fan and don't want fish on your pizza, have them try green olives!
...but I also love deep dish with only cheese and chopped tomatoes. It all depends on what I'm in the mood for!
It's funny how mad people are getting at each other! Pizza rivalry is a very real occurrence!
As for the random BBQ discussion, neither NY or Chicago can even pretend to be contenders. South Carolina is the best IMO. Normally it's slow-cooked in a spicy rub, then drizzled with a super-sweet molasses BBQ sauce... Goes from sweet/tangy to spicy/savory as you progress through it.
Tennessee is too sweet, Texas is too spicy, and KC is too smoky. SC manages to pull all those flavors in, and balance them in a way that no other state can touch.
South Carolina BBQ = Nasty.. KC BBQ = The best..
Umm... half the point of truly good BBQ is a great, smoky meat! KC BBQ wins, hands down – best meat, best sauce. Done!
Deep dish pizza is not a focaccia with tomato and cheese on it. It's a medium-thick crust pressed into a deep pan.
All of you people who say that it's like "eating a loaf of bread" are only telling those of us who've had deep dish that you've never even tried it.
I just returned from Florida. Park Avenue BBQ in North Palm kept me alive!
As long as we're getting all riled up, let's argue about barbecue, too!
Hand-pulled, traditional crust, crispy on the outside, chewy and yeasty on the inside. The Varsity on Marshall Street in Syracuse, NY. As of today, the Orange are 18-0. Yeah, buddy.
Chicago Pizza & Oven Grinder Co. serves up an incredible pizza pot pie!!!!
I want to eat pizza, not a loaf of bread. Why not just put tomato sauce, cheese, and toppings on warm slices of bread. NY is the only real pizza.
Phil's Pizza in Bridgeport, Chicago. THE BEST.
Garcias is still in Champaign, but it is not as god as it used to b, so says most locals...
Gino's east with its thicker crust made with cornmeal is the orignal chicago style pizza. My favorite is Aurelios thin crust cheese. Its in the sauce.
Well, just try a deep dish with sausage and green olives at Pagliai's Pizza in Mankato, Minnesota, and you'd be able to tell both Chicagoans and New Yorkers that there's another contender. However, I admit that I frequently have to do Gino's East in Chicago in order to remain focused in the pursuit of perfection.
Please, Oh please, somebody bring Chicago-style pizza to southern Georgia! Specifically Valdosta!
All they know here is thin stuff! Closest we come is Pizza Hut pan pizza...
DINA MIA PIZZA in northern Wisconsin is the best. Crunchy (not soggy) crust, slices of (not shredded) cheese, any toppings you want. Great prices. They could be nationwide, but they are content to stay in this area. The best kept secret about pizza in the nation (maybe the world).
THE BEST PIZZA BY FAR is the ones I make with my partner.We take turns kneading and forming the crust. She puts her stuff on her half and I do the same. We share it hot from the oven with a favorite chilled wine, then digest it in bed while listening to music we both like.
Haha! I'm sorry but your comment just totally creeped me out! Cheers!
Chicago style pizza, New york style pizza, thin crust pizza, thick crust pizza, If you want to try the BEST pizza you ever had go to Angelina's Pizza in Cambridge, Vermont. Angelina's has the BEST pizza in Vermont. So when you are in Vermont go to Angelina's and get some delicious VERMONT pizza.
Just had my first Chicago style pie at Due on Christmas Eve. Kinda gross. ... clearly thin crust tastes. If you want a STRONG alternate take on pizza, Tom Douglas's Serious Pie in Seattle should be on your "check THIS out" list.
EH! Sorry!
We could debate about NY versus Chicago forever...but who's not even getting in the ring? Any city on the west coast. Sorry! You just don't do pizza very good! I live in Seattle now and I am DYING to get back east so I can eat some good pizza!
I'm a softy for Chicago style, but I like to enjoy a variety of pizza.
However, I'm shocked anyone likes STL pizza. I lived there for many years...absolutely loved the city, but was completely disgusted by the pizza. From my experience, the majority of people that actually liked that pizza grew up eating it, while the majority of transplants to the city hated it. Personally, I'd skip Imo's and go to Pi...or heck, even Pizza Hut.
Pizza from Old Forge Pennsylvania is out of this world delicious!
NY style pizza IS pizza. Chicago is to pizza as the Cubs are to winning baseball titles.
Hahahaha!!! Arguement over, best post! You win sir, congrats!
It is rather presumptuous for New Yorkers to call pizza anything other than “Italian“pizza. Clearly the New York style pizza is a true copy of the original recipe brought from Italy at the turn of the century and not a New York invention. Whereas the Chicago style pizza is not a true Italian style pizza but rather an American variation, a hybrid and has earned the right to the name.
I have had pizza in about 1/2 of the states, all over Europe and Australia. Connecticut, NY pizzas are fantastic. But the first time I had Chicago pizza the judging was over. It truly is phenominal. Years ago I recall being on an airplane from Chicago to DFW and there had to be half of the overhead bins with pizzas to go stuffed in them. I wasn't impressed with this so called article but the reminder of Chicago pizza brought back some good memories.
Chicago casseroles are gross when fresh out of the oven. ... in the overhead bin on a plane? That's terrorism.
New York pizza is just plain boring, dry, and awful. The ingredients aren't as fresh as Chicago's, the crust has the consistency of a stale cracker, and the toppings are so sparse that I feel gypped paying for it.
Deep dish is good, stuffed pan (Sauce on top) is GREAT. But as far as thin crust is concerned, I go for the city that has fresher ingredients, more toppings, and doesn't make their crust out of old saltines.
Talk about a carb overload. The Chicago style or deep dish pizza is not a pizza; it is a thick open faced sandwich with pizza ingredients on top. Everybody I know that loves the Chicago pizza is a huge bread lover. To them having a thick slice of bread with pizza ingredients added on is literally icing on the cake.
Like most foods I like balance and the Chicago pizza lacks any balance whatsoever. They try and pile on enormous amounts of sauce, cheese and meat to provide some balance to the overwhelming thick slice of bread but in the end it is too much of everything. When I eat Chicago pizza I scrape off the pizza toppings and eat maybe a bite or two of the bread and give the rest to my Chicago pizza lover friends who by the way don’t need it.
Father and sons thin crust is the best in chi- town but for the pie its giordonos
Screw sh!tago and definatetly screw NYwhiners, in Cincinnati we have a place called Trottas that will teach you what pizza pie should be. web search it and visit when your down this way.
My perfect pizza is a thick crust with pepperoni, extra cheese, jalapenos, ham, onions, mushrooms, and bacon. Sometimes I get in the mood for a deep dish pizza though.
WRONG WRONG WRONG!!! I have traveled the world as a pizzaphile-- the New York City pie is the best to be found on Planet Earth- you are Chicago FOOL!
Naples, Italy has the best pizza in the world by a mile. This Chicago and NY pizzas are both greasy messes.
Both styles are good. Sometimes I want a Chicago style, sometimes a NY style. It really depends on the day. I happen to like both. If I'm in Manhattan, I want the parmigiana pizza at NY Pizza Suprema on 8th. That was pretty good.
Haven't eaten Chicago style in Chicago, but have a native in the office, who makes pies occasionally and brings them in.
One more thing. It's a personal opinion and taste thing for a large percentage of the commenters, so if they don't match your own, that's perfectly ok and you don't have to resort to insults.
Come on, man. Don't be a killjoy. It's called a rivalry.
Papa Del's in Champaign FTW.
oh yeah! FTW!
Some pizza is not pizza, Chicago pizza is awesome, this comes from a New Yorker, but it's not pizza... Pizza by definition is a style of flatbread, Chicago pizza has more in common with a meat pie than it does a pizza, even the crust of a Chicago pizza is like that of a meat pie from various European countries... It's not pizza, it's an entirely different animal.
Believe or not (and I know you won't) the best Pizza comes from a local joint here in Santa Fe , NM. Backroads Pizza. Thin,crispy crust,crackles when bitten into. Holds up to all the toppings of your choice. Unfortunately, likely a sign pointing to the end of days
I have been to both Chicago (I live in Illinois) and New York, NY (Ma's family hails from Manhattan) and I still like St. Louis style pizza the best. Imo's. The square beyond compare.
Deep dish is the Cincinnati Chili of pizza. Ambition unbridled by taste.
i'd say that Cincy chili is another beast, but still delicious nothing like it! I still need to have some real Chicago deep dish, i've just had some home made (not sure how authentic it is), but NJ pizza is great.
I had the experience of living 9 and half years in Chicago (before I got smart and moved back to where I was raised- more scenic, no state income tax and much more mellow), and aside from the fact that I will never understand Chicago natives or their habits, or their sports teams, I will admit- the pizza is outstanding. For some of you who have never tasted a deep dish Chicago pizza, Edwardos does sell their pizzas online and they ship them anywhere packed in dry ice. Some of the other pizza places might do the same but I have not investigated it. I have never had the chance to visit New York so I cannot speak as to the "superiority" of their pizzas, and I am sure from their perspective theirs are just that- superior. But in the context of what I have eaten, the best pizzas in Chicago are Wapaghetti's in Wheeling and Edwardos. Both tasted awesome.
had some once, pizza from Philly is much better, deep dish, the one from the windy city would have made a good tire, not impressed at all
You are all wrong.
Pequods is the food of the Gods.
PEQUOD'S YEEEESSSSS!
FYI
Try the shredder in Pizza Outback in Taos, New Mexico
If you don't know pizza, know your pizzeria. And I would want Sal's from Do The Right Thing to be my pizzeria. Because Sal didn't say 'Peetsa' he said "piz-er REE-a". And he sat down with you. And asked how your family was doin'. And Mookie would deliver if your car was busted. And you didn't have to listen to that rap music. Only Sinatra. SAL'S!!!
I'm gonna get lynched...
Where's all the love for California style pizza?
*ducks*
those are tostadas.
whether it's thick or thin, as long as it's good quality and delicious, i love pizza!!
I've spend a lot of time in both cities so it took awhile to get the best of both. They're both great, but you have to know where to go. I agree that you like what you grew up with. I live in Rochester NY and think our pizza is best. I've also has pizza in Napoli, which is where pizza was first made with cheese (cheese, tomatoes and basil.....the colors of the Italian flag). New York pizza is more closely related to the pizza from Naples, but New York also had a ton more Italian immigrants than Chicago and is also a much older city, so it only makes sense that their pizza would closely resemble the real deal.
NY Pie...way overrated. Nothing but average dough with too much cheese.
Chicago Pizza...would never consider it pizza. It is more of a pizza style casserole.
Neopolitian pizza...now that is pizza...everything else is just pretending.
Look up Pizzeria Brandi in Naples Italy and give yourself a little lesson folks.
Smitten Kitchen had a great post about BACON pizza. That sounds good.
VIP Bayside Queens, Amore in Flushing, New Park pizza southh queens.
nothing i mean nothing in chi-town can come even close to it. just the way it is.
I used to live around the corner from VIP, great stuff. Also, Umbertos in New Hyde Park, NY is one of the best on the Island- better than any Chicago "pizza".
I have had both including the best places in chi town and in nyc of which queens has the best of nyc.
zero doubt in my mind, NY Pizza when made very good is far superior to any pizza from chi-town!
pizza expert
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If you live in the Chicago area hit up Roberto’s Ristorante & Pizzeria in Elmhurst , IL. It is the best I ever had, and have no doubt you will thank me profusely! I have traveled all over and nothing could ever compare. FYI, they do have a restaurant section that does not list pizza on the menu, but you can still order it, otherwise there is a separate entrance for their take out.
You are soooo right! Along with Roberto's I suggest s special little Italian pizzeria in Luxembourg, Luxembourg or Jim & Pete's Pizza in or near Oak Park, IL. High quality, and delicious (thin crust).
I also appreciate your proper use of grammar...thanks!
I hate to repeat the old saw but... Pizza is alot like sex. When it is great nothing is better. And, when it is bad it is still pretty good.
Pizza can be matched to palate, place, time , place, weather, anything. Enjoy
I feel that if you don't weight a least 300 pound you don't really love pizza at all. Big, thick and gooey, a deep dish with a soft crust with so much cheese it will give you carpal tunnel syndrome if you tried to eat a whole pie at one sitting. Even a big eater could only eat 3 slices, and it's just as good the next morning and a tad into the afternoon while watching the football game on the couch. Sadly there are few places that serve a great pie in Western Canada but I'm looking and eating my way around the country hoping to find that one great place.
New Haven/CT style pizza please. It's so frustrating when I can't get a decent piece. A good Greek style pizza is good too, but a totally different food group.
New Haven has the best pizza... and the best of the best is a tie between Sallys and Pepe's.
"Chicago Style" seems almost to be a trademark or something (like turbo or lite). The thick crust stuff is good but a VAST MAJORITY of the local neighborhood places make super thin crust sliced into small squares. A place in Warrenville, IL called Al's Pizza (unique name, I know!) makes THE BEST PIZZA in the world, bar none, and it's as thin as paper (when its at its best)!!!!!
Chicago style pizza is nasty. I mean if you like it and all thats fine, but its hardly the "best" pizza.
Thick crust with pepperoni and onions.
I'm with you CD, East Coast, Thin crust, fantastic sauce and foldable. Yum!!
Pepe's Pizza in New Haven, CT baby!!! It's worth the drive from NYC!
You love what you grew up with. For me, in NJ, it's a fairly thin crust that's doughy under the sauce but gently cracks on the bottom when you fold it. The sauce is the most important part, full of rich tomato flavor. Top it off with a thin layer of mozzarella, barely browned, that oozes an orange grease when folded. Yum! Nothing like it in the world. CHicago style is ok, but far too heavy in the gut.
I'm from northern NJ many great pizzerias there.Like NY similar to Italy
Italy has far better pizza then either of them
Not the pizza I ate when I was in Turin, Italy, it was pretty disgusting and very disappointing.
Sorry, the best answers the phone. We called the other day for an hour and a half and no one would answer. Santa Fe store.
NY Pizza = cardboard crust + sace + topping = call it food = gross. #1 Chicago Deep Dish #2 Cottage Inn Michigan
ive lived in chicago and currently live in manhattan – you cant compare ny and chicago styles – that being said im surprised no one has used the age old adage that pizza is like sex, even when its bad its stilll pretty good!
Chicago pizza? Good, but I wouldn't call it the best.
How about my grandfather's pizza. He was from Calabria and could make a great pizza.
Realistically, though. Have you ever lived in NYC? Some of those guys get it right.
GOD eats Chicago stuffed pizza and says it kicks a**
Ten minutes after, all those toppings in his stomach had a chemical reaction and had the runs on your face. Your so-called God hates you.
Rocky's in Wisconsin – Chicago style done right!
Broadway Bar is the best in MN!!
please new yorkers, point me another one of your legendary pizzerias so I can try it.I still in search of this great pizza you have I've had plenty of ny pizza and find Chicago pizza to be far superior, and I'm only referring to thin crust. I do like deep dish but real Chicagoans defintitely use a knife and fork to eat it.
oops, meant to say we DON'T eat it with a knife and fork haha
Good ol Steve Dahl. I was at Disco Demolition at. The only radio show to ever cause a baseball game to be lost. I've seen Steve eat and he knows his food...
I never knew what Chicago pizza was until one time I ordered one and when I got it, I thought they had forgotten the cheese! Now I know they are "upside down" pizzas, cheese UNDER the sauce.
It was really delicious!
Boodls – if you want a truly original and "upside down" pizza try Chicago Pizza and Oven Grinder (on North Clark)- they serve a pizza pot pie that is awesome. The first time I went there I thought they were nuts. Pizza served in a bowl? However, one taste of the blend of ingredients and the triple raised Sicilian crust and I was hooked.
these are great!
Lou Malnati's rules!!
Am I the only one who finds it highly amusing how many people were eager to jump in and agree that chicago-style was the best – when #3 says "Chicago pizza can be used as a spare tire in a roadside emergency"?
Or is this Chicago-style that I don't get as an outsider?
double deckoroni pizza from old chicago!
Chicago pizza is among the WORST. OMG, how disgusting and gross to have all that cheese all over it. The world's best pizza is in Naples, Italy. It's thin, lighter, not overwhelmed by wretched fake (American) mozzarella and other awful lard loads, and doesn't leave you feeling like you just consumed an aircraft tire. I just hate pizza that has too much crap on it. In fact the very best is to get it senza formaggio so you can really taste the basil, the veggies, the olive.....
Charlotte, I agree with Sam, you are an idiot. Chicago has the best "PIZZA", thin crust and deep dish. BTW if you are ever released from the assylum and are able to fly in for a visit without screwing up your parole, try Ricobenes Pizza. Also a little known family joint in Bridgeport, called PHILS. Excellent sweet sauce and crust that cannot be beat. Charlotte just quit opening your mouth or I might just shove a "Pie" down your PIE HOLE DU M As s
If it tastes good, I don't care. Love it all.
Totally agree! I'm a Chicago native and am an equal-opportunity pizza eater... I love both deep dish and thin crust – it just depends on how hungry I am. Best deep dish I've ever had was a place that actually closed down in Naperville called Brick Oven Pizza (probably couldn't compete with the Lou Malnati's that was down the street). It had a crispy crust on top and thicker bottom crust and in between was the usual deep dish pizza yumminess. It was divine. Favorite thin crust pizza is definitely Rosati's. Mmmm... pizza.
Thin Crust = The crust is only there to hold the ingredients. Heck, why not just bake the ingredients on a plate and serve it with a scoop!
Thick Crust = iI's only good if the crust has a great taste. The ingredients should be fresh and plentiful for a great chicago style pizza.
That's my 2¢
I'm from Boston so this is not easy to say, but nothing compares to New York pizza.
This had to hurt for you, but I respect the candid answer.
I also respect your admission. I understand where you're coming from because the worst pizza I've had in my life was in Boston, sorry :(
c'mon...let's just call it a pie
Saw the tag line for this story and wondered who could possibly think Chicago pizza was better than NY pizza and when I realized the article was a joke I calmed down and had a nice chuckle.
Chicago is a GREAT city...EVERYTHING I have encountered in my visits there was top-notch; the people, food, atmosphere, everything. However, the pizza is terrible. I liken it to "Papa john's" or "DiGiorno's" or something. Not ALL NYC pizza is great, but some of the pizzerias we have here are simply amazing. Chicago pizza is really just the result of Chicago's pizza establishment making an attempt to distinguish itself from NYC. I get that but it doesn't work; and that guy on the Travel Channel (Marc Malnati) is beyond annoying.
If you want to talk steak then I can definitely side with Chi-town but if you want pizza done the right way you need NYC.
Chicago "pizza" is not pizza...it's chicago meat and cheese cake...I'm sure it's delicious but calling it pizza is unacceptable
You are correct that it isn't pizza. I would beg to differ about its being 'delicious' but you're right, it isn't pizza.
It's pizza. It tastes great! And you're an idiot.
After almost 20 years, I do enjoy deep-dish Chicago-style pizza (Lou Malanti's is the best!), but my heart still belongs to Imo's in St. Louis. Most, if not all, of pizza in St. Louis is super thin crust and made with provel cheese. Can't buy the cheese outside of STL (unless you go online) and its awesome!!
The best pizza I ever had was just off the south gate at the USAF Academy in C-Springs, CO ... that bad boy was about 2 1/2 inches thick and a mere 9 inches across. I could eat but two pieces and it was absolutely devine. The crust was by no means "dense" and there was not an over abundance of toppings. To me, NY style is like cardboard with ketchup. This is strictly my prefernce, folks, and not a condemnation of a particular style or geographic location.
I grew up in Chicago, and I actually got food poisoning the one and only time I ate a "Chicago-Style" deep dish pie. My favorite Chicago pizza will always be Father & Son thin crust, with green peppers, onions and sausage. Yum!
Chicago Pizza is not real pizza. It's casserole.
Botch is correct. Chicago-style (emphasis on style) is a casserole. Real pizza is thin crust (as made in Italy). But the best pizza ever (IMHO) is New Haven pizza – Modern, Bar, Pepe's, Sally's, etc. Brick oven, thin crust, great sauce, perfect balance of ingredients.
Agree! Not pizza. And icky. Wayyyy to much junk. Best pizza is in the old part of Napoli, in Italy. Hands down.
agree 100%...it's not pizza
Agree – not pizza. It's more like a cake or a casserole. From Wikipedia – "A casserole, from the French for "saucepan",[1] is a large, deep dish used both in the oven and as a serving vessel. The word casserole is also used for the food cooked and served in such a vessel, with the cookware itself called a casserole dish or casserole pan." Chicago pizza is like a casserole with a little bit of dough and 2000 calories of junk
I am very fond of Chicago pizza as it makes me reminisce about my college days on Rush street and the twelve years my wife and I lived there. But the truth about pizza is that the "best " pizza" is the one you have roots with. Whether in Cleveland or texas or memphis or Chicago or New York, the "best" is your pizza and though you may be able to enjoy another, there is no place like home.
One word – Giordanos
In a N.C. pickle right now, but I really miss Long Island, N.Y. That's where the best pizza is! I have dreams of Post Pizza, in Westbury. I don't even know if they still exist, but I can feel the oil dripping off of my elbow. : ( I'll give Branchinelli's Pizza in Hauppauge, N.Y. a strong 2nd place for their veal parm hero. They don't even know what a hero is down here. Hello N.Y.! : (
LI, NY!! J-E-T-S JETS JETS JETS!!!
New yuk may claim to have invented the pizza, but Chicago perfected it and made it a meal! I think it has to do with the personalities. New yorkers are rude and shallow so the pizza is thin and transparent. Chicago is thoughtful and friendly, so their pizza is some thing that you can take your time to have a conversation while eating it. Nobody can have a conversation with a new yorker, they already think they know everything and are better than anybody else. Gino's East!!!
alrighty! this is too funny... i have a website that i go to for the word of the day (practice for my spelling team) and today's word is Klatsch!!! so here's the 'official' definition, etc. :) its a German word meaning gossp. hah!
klatsch\ KLAHCH \ , noun;
1. A casual gathering of people, esp. for refreshments and informal conversation.
Quotes:
This morning, in order to finish a set of essays in time to hand them back and discuss them in his eleven o'clock class, he had to resist his desire to be part of the klatsch .
– John Wheatcroft, The Beholder's Eye
I guess the boys at the conspiracy klatsch couldn't figure how else a woman could afford a car like mine."
– Alistair Boyle, The unlucky seven: a Gil Yates private investigator novel
Origin:
Klatsch comes from the German word for "gossip."
i thought brick oven pizza from new haven like pepes sallys and modern apizza was tops ask any yale student.
Grew up in Chicago and lived on Lou Malnatti's pizza's. Everytime I come home to visit, I stop and stock up. Nothing beats Lou's. Simply the BEST!
Luigi's in Akron, Ohio is the shiznit. :) such thick pan crust, and lots and lots of REAL mozzerella! YUM!!!
Chicago style pizza is way better imo than the pizza served in NY. I like the thicker crusts here. Yes Steve Dahl is is still around and can be heard on his daily podcast. He says he can't be on the radio again until his contract with CBS runs out in July. People can say what they want about him but who wouldn't want to be making 7 figures a year for talking in their basement. Check him out on i tunes or his website. The shows are funnier than ever.
Deep-dish beats thin crust anytime.
just don't try to pass it off as pizza.
Just as long as you don't try to pass yourself off as intelligent.
not from ny or chi but i have to agree with this article!! the thicker/greasier, the better. memphis is trying to come up with a thin style, like st louis - pass. marion's thin style in dayton, oh, is pretty good. youngstown, oh, has more authentic sicilian styles, which are yummy. of course, they also have a large mafia presence, but you didn't hear that from me.
I left Chicago many, many years ago and THE FIRST meal I have when I return is ALWAYS Giordano's pepperoni pizza. Nothing in California comes close – even the "Chicago-style" ones. And how great to see Steve Dahl is still around. "Disco $ucks!" LOL
I crave Giordano's and get some EVERY trip to Chicago. The deep dish at Pi's in St. Louis is a pretty good attempt at Chicago-style too.
I'm laughing at the people who are trying to compare thin to thick crust pizzas. They're nothing alike!
My husband and I went to Chicago for a conference about 7 years ago and had heard before we left about how great the pizza was. We went to Geno's East and Giordano's on two separate nights. Giordano's, by far, was the best pizza I've ever had in my 42 years! I'm from L.A. and have had NY pizza too when I visited there years before and there is no comparison: Chicago really does have the best pizza! All that pepperoni, sausage and gooey cheese still makes me dream of it all those years later. I have never had another pizza like that again.
Puh-leese. The best pizza (pie) on the planet is prepared and served at The Medici in Hyde Park, Chicago. Yes, I've had Home Run Inn, Giordano's, Pizzaria Uno and Due, and all the other pretenders. Nothing beats Da Medici. New York ? that's not even a decent comparison.
Dude, that place is grossly overrated and just hyped up by college kids who don't know better. It's a cool place ambiance-wise but the pizza is "above average" at best and everything else is blah-on-a-plate.
If it was on the North side or Bucktown area it wouldn't last.
Pizzeria Uno????!!!????!!!! you're kidding, right???
We waited hours for a Uno's pizza in Chicago last fall. It was the worst pizza I've ever had.
There are TWO kinds of styles in Chicago:
-Deep dish (which actually has 2 sub-variants: toppings up top or stuffed)
-Thin crust cut into squares
The latter is actually the far more common variety amongst Chicagoans when we order pizza, probably because it's delivered faster.
As for NY style, it's ok, but it's more of a fast food item. I've also seen New Yorkers try to lay **FALSE** claim to New Haven style pizza, which is very, very good stuff and more in line with "real" Italian pizza. It's my favorite type. In fact my favorite pizzeria in Chicago specializes in it.
Chicago Style....Sauce on top and the ingredients cook up through it and Man O Man!
Thin crust wins hands down. Check out my pizza blog :)
http://worldpizzatour.blogspot.com/
Chicago is the BEST in everything!
Lou Malnatis! nom nom nom!
From Chicago, love the city, but nothing better than a thin crust New York pizza.
I've lived in Chicago and New York, but give me IMO'S pizza from St. Louis any day of the week!
LOVE LOVE LOVE IMO'S!!! My die-hard Gino's East loving husband needs his Imo's fix every time we're in town!
Pepperoni pizza from Geraci's in Cleveland is by far the best pizza you can get anywhere. Anybody who has had it will tell you the same.
What's a "Cleveland"?
Lou Malnati's deep dish cheese. Enough said.
You are so right! My dad introduced my to Lou Malnati's when I was 5. I've loved it ever since!
Nothing comes close to my born and raised Italian grandma's homemade pizza! But now that she' s gone we have been content with Lou Malnatis thick crust and nothing comes close to the best thin crust pizzeria on the northside (wrigleyville), D'Agostino's! Yummy!!!
Yeah I have to respectfully disagree with this guy. Chicago style has double or even triple the amount of carbs in one slice than a thin crust NY style slice. Pizza is about enjoying the balance of the crust, cheese and toppings – not choking on the 2-3 inch layer of bread inbetween! I prefer NY style obviously but I guess it depends on what you grew up with as a child...
Absolutely, if I want to eat meat, cheese and vegetables I would put the seperately on a plate, not on my pizza. Fat a$$ Chicagoans need all the dough and toppings to soak up the grease and cholesterol so its tolerable to eat. As for everyone claiming NY thin crust is whimpy with no toppings, its because we don't need a giant montrosity of a slice thats obviously overcompensating for being called the "Second City" (second to NY). Oh and how those Cubbies working out for u? Hehe..
I live in Chicago but have visited New York many times. If I want "New York" style pizza in Chicago, all I have to do is visit a Sbarro at a mall food court. But why would I want to do that? Sbarro tastes like crap.
I couldn't agree more!
you have no idea what you are talking about!!! Sbarro's????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? PUH-LEEEZE....idiot.
there in lies your problem Sbarro tastes nothing like NY pie.
I graduated from IIT in Chicago in 1975 and haven't had as good a pizza since. Most places on the East Coast advertise "Chicago Deep Dish Pizza", but it's just a regular pizza with a super-thick crust. A real Chicago deep dish pizza is a real "pie" where the middle is a thick filling of sauce and "toppings" and the cheese is the pie's top crust. For other pizzas, I think the main difference is the quality of the sauce.
Meh. Outside the NY-metropolitan area, pizza crust just never seems to taste right. I've had Chicago pizza, and it isn't BAD, in it's own way. But the crust always seems to taste like it was made with Bisquick or something.
too much dough with Chicago pizza.
Yup, it's like eating a rubbery loaf of undercooked bread with a ton of fake cheese. Yeecccch.
You're an idiot who doesn't know thing one about pizza.
In case anyone's not aware, Chicago also has a unique thin crust, which is crispy, square-cut, and has a flavorful, herby sauce (as opposed to the sweet sauce on NY-style thin crust). It's my absolute favorite kind of pizza.
We have Paul's Chicago Pizza here in Clearwater. Thin crust and crispy. We love it ! Although we do enjoy deep dish and NY style also. It all depends on the mood that day, given a choice I would say our favorite is the Chicago thin crust, followed by NY Style then Chicago Deep Dish
Oh, please stop! I have been living on frozen pizza since I left New York. Even reading about NY pizza is making me want to plan a trip...
The Tomato in Denton, TX best deep dish ever!!! RIP
Well, it is a preference that you usually grew up with – and as a kid from Chicago North side – my Dad and I would always make the pizza run to Father and Son's and it was thin crust and I used to get to hold the box on my lap on the ride back home enjoying the tantalizing smell. I started hearing about deep dish in high school – and there used to be a place off Michigan Avenue that we would go to for the deep dish pizza. I went back in the late 90's and was disappointed because the pizza now had way too much sauce on it. Now if you think you have problems try living in Colorado Springs and finding a decent pizza – thick or thin.... and who ever heard of goat cheese and chicken on a pizza for crying out loud. These days if I don't make it myself it always falls short of expectations.
I'm an Illinois native, but I can't stand deep dish pizza. NY style is far superior. Fortunately, here in Nashville we have a number of folks who've migrated from NYC and opened pizza joints. Manny's House of Pizza is the best.
Please don't claim "Illinois native" again. Go root for the Stankees while you're at it. Shame on you!
Hey BBQ is good . . .you got it right. JB should go to Pizza Hut for the best deep dish. It will remind him of what he's been missing since he left Chicago.
I love all styles of pizza but trying to compare them is pretty pointless. When I lived in Chicago my favorite was Lou Malnatis. My BIL sends me a 4 pack of Lou's pizza every Christmas and there's no doubt two slices will keep you warm!
New Haven pizza is the best I've had in USA. Neopolitan style and 100-year old brick ovens.
FINALLY! was waiitng for someone to bring up New Haven, CT pizza! I am a New Yorker born and raised and still think you can get better pizza than just about anywhere else at any local pizzeria BY THE SLICE on any street corner in Queens, NY, but New Haven, CT pizza is definitely a very close second. And thin crust is the way to go......
New Haven pizza is the best out there.
I don't know when tick crust supposedly took over Chicago, but growing up on da south side two block from Home Run Inn Pizza I never saw Chicago pizza being anyting but tin crust.
The original name is "Pizza Pie" tards! CHICAGO RULES THE LAND!!!!
Geez, people. It's not really a thin-crust versus deep-dish debate. They're completely different so it's a shame they're so often compared. New Yorkers love their pizza. Chicagoans love their pizza. There's room for the two to exist in their own cities.
Besides, after several trips to New York, I'd only very reluctantly return. I've never been treated more abysmally in my entire life – and I've traveled extensively in Europe and Latin America, speak 4 foreign languages, know how to walk on busy city sidewalks, and would sooner die than don a fanny pack while touring. Parisians are far more courteous than New Yorkers.
So, I'll gladly eat Chicago pizza with a side of Midwestern courtesy and leave New Yorkers to eat their pizza, which I feel is often reminiscent of cardboard.
You know it! New York style pizza is for wimps. That so-called crust is too floppy to even support the sparse ingredients. Pathetic.
Couldn't have said it better myself. Well put my good man, well put.
I've done some travelling as well. Born and raised in northeastern US, I went to school in Iowa, and spent some time in Europe. I do not find NYC pizza to be superior to Chicago, and the brusque service somehow makes the food less enjoyable. I have not had a Chicago style pizza I preferred over my own homemade, but it was certainly better than NYC pizza and customer service in Chicago was far superior. I miss Midwestern manners.
There wouldn't be a Chicago Pizza if it wasn't first made in New York. As a matter of fact, there wouldn't be a Chicago if there wasn't a New York first.
Of course not, Europeans settled from the East to the West. It's fairly impossible to start in the middle if you're coming from the other side of the pond, you dolt. However, the Mississippian culture with its epicenter at Cahokia near St. Louis was the largest settlement in North America before the Europeans came.
By your logic, without England, there would be no New York, therefore England is better than New York. TRAITOR! OFF WITH HIS HEAD!
And it wouldn't be in New York if some Italians hadn't made it first. But this isn't about who made it first, it's about who made it best...and New York still loses in that category.
Why do people from the east coast always turn their noses up at Chicago? If I wanted to pay $2,000/month for a crappy one bedroom apartment, pay $12 for a drink at a mediocre bar, walk through garbage in the street and live with a bunch of snobs, I'd move to NYC. But since I don't, I'll stay right here in Chicago AND eat deep dish pizza.
All of the adventurous, best people moved on and left all of the losers on the shore in NY.
Nancy's Pizza on North Broadway in Chicago is the absolute best! 2" thick and the best sauce in the world. Takes about an hour to bake after ordering, but worth every minute!
Instead of waiting that long for deep dish, order from Pizza Hut, and they will have your dep dish delivered within a half hour!
I love both thin and thick/pan pizzas – variety is the spice of life. Mr. Dahl is right though – there is nothing as wonderful as a big thick gooey slice of Chicago style pizza, just the sauce, cheese and some italian sausage – golden crispy crust... Pairs well with a good beer or a glass of good red.
NY pizza – only way to go
No. Chicago style is the only way to go. Anything else is a waste of time.
And the best Chicago deep dish is from Pizza Hut!!
Only in your dreams...nothing is better than NY pizza. God created pizza in NY, where it belongs.
I just threw up in my mouth a little thinking of that greasy, disgusting, nauseating junk you call pizza. And I bet my puke tasted better too.
Actually He created pizza in Italy...but you keep right on living in your little drug-induced fantasy world.
too much sauce
Too much EVERYTHING. It's gross!
I'm from Chicago but the best pizza is not from there, it's best where it was created. Italy. Chicago has excellent pizzerias but "Chicago style" is part of the excellent. Try out Palermo's on 95th.....that's some good italian pizza
Palermo's is great – also try Tata's.
And don't forget Home Run Inn, Aurelio's and Lou Malnati's. These are the best places for pizza - thin crust or thick crust.
Tata's and Areola's are good, but the best is Vulva's!!
And don't forget Pizza Hut for best deep dish in Chicago!
That Chicago crap is disgusting. If I wanted a cake with meat and cheese I would order a cake with meat and cheese.
If I wanted a cracker with almost nothing on it, because I am bulemic then I would go to NY.
Best deep dish is from Pizza Hut in Chicago!!
7 yrs. on the east coast eating this New York slop. Thinking of moving back to the greater Chicago area just for the pizza.
You should try italian pizza then
Really, that's an amazing thing to say.
Steve Dahl IS THE ORIGINAL AND THE BEST! Just like Chicago Deep Dish – the best! And just like everything else in NY, their pizza is way overrated....just like Howard Stern....way overrated. Stern claims to be the original...but Steve Dahl is clearly the original and still the best.
Not a big fan of deep-dish but if I get one it is absolutly Chicago, just like Mr. Dahl. 33years later and still listen everyday.
I'm a Chicagoan, but I prefer thin crust–sausage, mushrooms, black olives. No one talks about stuffed pizza, though, and it totally rocks–Edwardo's stuffed spinach is the best thing ever. (And, yes, it's different from deep-dish.)
Edwardo's is the best stuffed spinach. Love that place!
Totally agree about Edwardo's stuffed spinach. Nancy's is good too.
Hands down, stuffed pizza rules, especially at Eduardo's. Luckily for me, there is a Giordano's in Orlando, Fl. which comes close (but not quite the same)
Love both Chicago thick & thin, best part is they are not cheap with the Ingredients, unlike like the pizzas on the East Coast. Talk about bare bones....fugedabouitt !!
Your pizza's sound so good! I must invest in a pizza stone...
Thanks! For the pumpkin one I use boboli whole wheat crust- makes it easier if your'e short on time!
As a Chicago area native, I don't know what you are making - maybe it is good - but it sure isn't pizza.
Bobili is not a thick crust. Stop wasting space here.
It's a pie, not a pizza. And, it's one that tries to mask a lot of flaws with fat and toppings. A great pizza is one that can stand on its own when stripped down of all the extras. The pizza starts with the crust and it shouldn't be drowned in fat/oil, but featured.
Any place can make a dense crust, but a thin crust takes craft. Reason why good thin crusts are hard to find outside of NY. Too many toppings just throws of the balance (As does too much cheese – I'm looking at you, Wisconsin!). Limited toppings are best so they complement the crust and cheese, instead of burying them.
Amen to that! Chicago has dough pies with pizza toppings on it, while New York is the original and will always be the best! Pizza was originally meant to be eaten by working class people on the go, that's why you see every New Yorker folding their pizza so they can walk and eat at the same time. You don't eat it with a fork and knife! Sure deep dish tastes good but will always be SECOND RATE!!
New York. End of discussion.
Thin crust is a waste of time. Just as you are
Wrong. It's a pizza, not a pie. Get over your geographic linguistic preferences. Chicago style is better than New York, and Armand's in DC has the best pizzas.
Spinach and Garlic pizza at Armand's. Haven't lived in DC in 15 years and I still have to get it whenever I am in town. Simply the best.
No, YOU'RE wrong. "Chicago style" is not pizza. It might be something that people in Chicago like to eat, and it might have some similar ingredients but it is most definitely not pizza.
um, yes, it is a pie. Pizza from DC will NEVER win this argument...take a drive to Maryland and get a crab cake
No Charlotte, YOU are wrong. It is a pizza. Keep your ignorance to yourself please.
My wife bosts of a Chicago style pizze made at a pizza place in San Francisco called Zackaries. She even went so far as to bring one home on the plane to vancouver wa on her lap for me. It took us two sittings to eat it all and it was good. Has any one here ate there?
@John P – Yes, I'm a Bay Area resident & am very familiar with Zachary's Pizza. Having spent a couple of rough (cold!) years in Chicago, I can tell you that Zachary's is the closest thing to authentic Chicago-style pizza in Northern CA, if not anywhere outside of Chicago. It's delicious, isn't it? :)
I'm a New Yorker who loves both Chicago AND NY style pizza! And I don't feel like a traitor. I feel like a fat girl. But a happy fat girl!
I'm a former Chicagoan who likes New York Pizza, especially as an appetizer while waiting for my deep dish to cook.
i agree, new york style as an appetiser for my chicago style!!!
relax.
Thought it wasn't called a pizza...lets be somewhat consistent here
Agree Cole...I'm from Chicago and I rarely order Chicago style pies...way to many ingredients. Its ok once in a while but nothing beats a great thin crust pizza with no more than 2-3 toppings.
It isn't dough when it is cooked correctly. A thick crust isn't doughy. That's a poorly made pizza. New York thin style is very oily. It's disgusting.
Pizza Hut is the best deep dish, and it ain't doughy!
Your lack of specificity when just referring to is as pie is simply irritating. When you go to a bar, do you say "I'll take a beer." or "I'll take a Brooklyn Lager"?
I would agree with your analogy if I was walking into a bakery. Walking into a pizzeria? No, I will take a pie please.
New York pizza, like just about everything else from the Big Apple, is way overrated. I'll take a Chicago pizza any day of the week and twice on Sunday over one of those lame New York pretenders.
It's a "pie" in NY, but no where else .
Chicago deep dish was invented by some Irish guy.It is tasty but it is not pizza in the true sense.N Y.NJ Conn ,Mass, Penn
serve authentic pizza Neopolitan and Sicilian style.The above comment is correct as with their hot dogs they put too much crap on their food.A good slice stands on it's own and doesn't need the camoflage.Same with a good dog.Oh yeah by the way fold it then eat it.
Racist moron. They were invented by Italian pizzeria chefs.
@ Thick is best. It may have been invented by Italians, but it's all made by the Mexicans now, you moron.
My friend, it's obvious you've never had a real Chicago deep dish pizza from Lou Malnati's. The crust IS CRISP and beats the snot out of a doughy NY pie. It's eaten with a knife and fork and doesn't have to be folded into a wedge so it's rigid enough to shove into your mouth.
Dummy,
Slices from NYC are folded to allow some of the grease to drain. If only there was a comparably easy way to do the same with the grease-infused Chicago-style messes that you like.
I love thincrust pizza with veggie toppings like mushrooms, peppers and onions.
Sometimes, I'll get extra creative and add things like chopped scallions, artichoke hearts, capers, and whole basil leaves. I add fennel to get a sausage taste without adding sausage. I went to China 5 yrs ago and the Pizza Huts there add corn to their veggie pizza- it's actually very good!
When fall starts, I make whole wheat pizza, substitute canned pumpkin for tomato sauce, add whole fresh sage leaves, nutmeg and cracked black pepper, the add Italian four cheese blend. The house smells heavenly!
With any pizza, I MUST have it well- done, I think it adds to the taste of the pizza. And lots of condiments, too- red pepper flakes, oregano, etc...
I'm a fan of New York-style pizza but am dying to go to Chicago- it seems like such a cool city- and I will try their pizza then!
I like your toppings! Love creative pizzas! I enjoy caramelized onions, sun-dried tomatoes and goat cheese – with a light balsamic glaze in place of traditional sauce.
yes. The best pizzas do not have tomato sauce and they aren't covered with cheese.
Intelligent people who know about pizzas aren't named "Charlotte".
@Sam....That's the best comment I've read in a long time. Thanks, I enjoyed that. @Charlotte...Sam Is so right.
That pumpkin pizza sounds divine! I may add some walnuts, too.
what you make is NOT pizza pie, it's a abomination. A pizza without meat is simply not a pizza pie ... you freak.
That's a dumb thing to say- I'm NOT a freak, and did you read my whole post?
Pumpkin sauce? That becomes.....not a pizza anymore. Not that it doesn't sound good- but it's not a pizza. I don't even know why you commented on this article.
Again, did you read my whole post? The first ideas I have call for tomato sauce and cheese. I like to be creative when I cook. Some people like my idea. I have an idea why I posted, I don't know why you did, adding nothing at all.
So is a white pizza not a pizza? I think jillmaries pizza idea with pumpkin sauce is brilliant and can't wait to try it!
Around here they add corn to something and call it "Santa Fe Style". I haven't seen that on pizza yet. If you really want something with a Southwest kick you add green chile to it. Green chile is good with everything. I have had both Chicago Style and New York Style. Chicago wins hands down. Either kind is hard to get in New Mexico and when you do it's only a poor imitation. Now I'm hungry.
Dude looks a lot like Michael Moore...
I thought the same thing!
No, Michael Moore looks like a homeless dude that never has problems finding a meal. Duche bag of all duche bags
Uh. It's spelled Douche.
Yummy, pizza, pizza! Although I like my crust a little thinner, but I did have some in Chicago a while ago and yes, it will keep you fat and warm! :)
sure pal
Thin crust with pepparoni, mushrooms, sausage and don't be skimpy with the cheese (preferably a mix of peccorino romano, provolone, mozzarella, fontina and gruyere).
I dont even know there is a Chicago pizza. I only know New York pizza. Do we have Atlanta pizza, LA pizza, Miami pizza?
Well, you're either being a typical NYC smug self, and trying to ignore Chi pizza exists, much less is better than yours, or you're just been in a cave since 1967 or so. You can't say NYC pizza is better if you've never had a Chi pizza. That's like saying the uSA is better than anywhere else without having traveled. Do yourself a favor and have some. Then, at least you can have some basis for saying which you prefer. No, we don't have an Atlanta or Miami pizza, because they're not famous for it, but Chi is. If you go there, Go to Lou Malnatti's, Due's or the like. Then, you'll feel educated – and have some great pizza! There's a whoel world out there west of the HUdson, even if that pic doesn't portray it!
Unos Chicago deep-dish Pizza
hey bruce. jealous much?
You only know New York pizza? You poor thing!
"Atlanta pizza"? I have lived in Atlanta for decades and my husband was born in Atlanta, and neither of us has ever heard of "Atlanta pizza."Chicago definitely wins in th NY vs. Chicago pizza debate, in my opinion. I've had both in both cities many times.No contest.
hey mark in nyc, arrogant much?
There is no pizza in the South. No Orlando pizza, no Charlotte pizza, no Atlanta pizza!!!! Believe it, I've been all over the south and there is not a good pizza place to be found. Want to make a financial killing. Bring New York or Chicago style to the south and teach them how to cook....
Thin is just sooo wrong and only fit for Yankees! I remember Uno's, Lou Malnoti's, and Garcia's fondly. At school (undergrad) with Garcia's Pizza in a Pan, one slice was a full meal for poor college kids. It is the only thing I miss about the Midwest but the one's I make are almost as good so I can live with the difference.
Here is the rub on the NY vs Chicago Pizza argument. Over 75% of the pizza consumed in Chicago is not the famed "Chicago style Pizza" thick crusted, layered..and yes -delicious. Most of the Chicago pizza is very thin crust, cut into small squares, and served all over the city. In fact, mot of the famous deep dish pizzarias also have a thin crust. This thinner, far more popular version of Chicago pizza never seems to want to get into the ring with the famed NY slice of pie. I don't blame the small square either – No way it wins that fight. NYC has it's own thick crusted pie – It's called Sicilian Pizza. Not nearly as popular, and nowhere as good as Chicago deepdish, but it would be a much fairer fight. Once, just once, I would like to see Chicago put forth its best lineup of the thin crusted Chicago square pizza (which outsells its deep dish cousin 5 to 1 in CHI everyday) pizza vs a NY pie. That would be something to see.
Part of the reason thin-crust pizza is eaten more in Chicago than the deep dish (and delicious) counterpart, is convenience. It takes 45 minutes to an hour to get that amazing pizza, and sometimes, you just don't have that kind of time (or you're too hungry to wait). The other reason in money. It's more expensive to get the deep dish variety, although it's worth it when you continue leftovers!
But try some D'Agostino's thin crust pizza.... That beats the pants off any NY-style pizza I've ever eaten.
Garcia's was the absolute best in Normal, IL! I so miss it. Too bad they went under. Their Gut Buster Pizza and a pitcher on Thursday night was a fond memory!!! Still Lou Malnotti's is pretty good! A good spinach and sausage pizza would rock right now!!!!
Yeah, it's a "Yankee" thing. Nice try. You came in second in that war, so why still so bitter, honey?
Stazya voiced most of what I think is true about why a lot of thin crust is sold in Chicago. I just ate Lou's tonight (sausage, cheese deep dish – delicious!) and would argue their thin crust would be a good contender as well. I also love Chicago's Pizza thin crust! Dag's is good (used to live a block away) and I used it eat it just like NYC style (folded up) but like NYC style the sauce is a little too sweet for it to be a regular pizza choice. If you are looking for what, I think, a solid NYC replica tyy Bacci's pizza by the slice... Huge and less than 5 bucks!
Chicago thin crust pizza doesn't get the kudos it deserves, best thin crust pizza in Chicago, nay the world, can be found at Vito & Nicks at 85th and Pulaski!
So true, it's the best!
How I miss Vito & Nicks pizza. Nobody in all New England or the East Cost knows how to make pizza! I know! I've been stuck here for 15 years. Also miss Gino's East–best deep dish in the world!
Best Deep Dish in Chicago is from the Pizza Hut on 34th Ave. Mmmm.
Oh, yeah. I'll bet you're as big as a Volkswagen beetle, too!
Queen of the Tubbies!
Listen . . .NYC pizza, Chicago deep dish pizza. . . .don't matter. They're both made in a Italian sounding joint by a bunch of Mexicans. Call it what it is. . .Tijuana pizza! YEAH, now that's good eats!!