Chef Moonen on CNN Opinion: Say no to genetically engineered salmon and 5@5 – Five fish that could use a break
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Lots of profound questions. I do note that recently is was found that the gene implanted in Sugar Beets to make them immune to herbicides had spread to local weeds, which are now herbicide resistant. The scientists said this was imporssible. I want to know what I am eating, I don't think that is asking for too much.
Genes are being modified all the time naturally. We are just started to control the process.
what is the matter "COOKIE" can't take the criticism? what is your phone number so we can discuss the essential amino acids and the water soluble vitamins....I mean you are such an expert right? hahahahahahaha
What is your phone number? I need to call and place an order!! Also to discuss genetics and nutrition....I can't stop laughing!!!Thanks MOONBEAM........ now go COOK a burger!
I only serve the "healthy" alcohol....I care about my guests........hahahahahaha
THANKS for the laughs "COOKIE"
NAME THE ESSENTIAL AMINO ACIDS? You are a cook....enough said!
how many years of college???????????????????
"executive chef" hahahahahahaha
Let me see . . . whose opinion should carry more weight for the rational reader?
Is it Rick Moonen's - a skilled professional chef who has made his career handling and preparing fine food?
Or is it AverageJoe's - whose idea of a 'gourmet meal' is a dozen Hot Pockets smothered in three pounds of bacon?
Joe, I'm guessing you have a 45-inch waistline and a partially digested McDonald's hamburger headed toward your aorta. You should learn what real food is before the fake stuff kills you.
How about neither one, since neither has any actual training or knowledge about GMOs? The guy may make a mean fricassee but his expertise on this issue is apparently exactly the same as the Average Joe's – some half-remembered stuff from 10th grade biology and a paranoid fear of the new and unfamiliar.
There are issues, to be sure – it could be a problem if a fertile strain of this fish were to escape into the wild. (On the other hand, it may provide a sizable benefit if it reduces the pressure on wild fish populations caused by overfishing.) But I'll happily eat it. We're talking about introducing genes from one edible fish into another edible fish. I'd sooner have this on my table than antibiotic-laden meat or hormone-drenched milk.
(to clarify, when I say "it may provide a benefit", by "it" I mean the farmed production of the GMO fish, not its accidental release into the wild.)
Obviously you havn't done much research either
They'll be farmed in inland tanks for that very reason
Says so right on the FDAs website
We as consumers must stand up and voice our concerns and fight for what is right and what we want. The government (i.e. the FDA) has these businesses in their back pocket and will spin anything to be "safe" or "negligible" difference so these companies can make a buck. If there really was no difference and eating GM food was safe, why would these companies be afraid to label their products as such and fight to not have labeling?????
Because, given a choice, the consumer would obviously choose the non-engineered foods which make these products a no go if you have to put specific labeling on them. This is the same reason that many people blindy buy "all natural" or "organic" foods even though the labeling requirements are so vague that those products are almost the same as any other product. In fact, there have been recent studies that have shown organic fruits and vegetables are more of danger to the poplulation due to the increased number of harmful bacterial populations. The FDA does not just look at the surface of a product and blindly approve. They review the most mundane detail prior to the approval of a product. Having worked for years trying to get products approved through the FDA I can honestly say they only have the safety of the population in mind and dont give two cents about the profitability of the companies.
He will call it "organic" "whole foods" and then throw a pound of cheese on it..."Who's he crappin".....PUBLICITY STUNT....
Hello children.................Who is this clown?
Who cares what a chef thinks? The most over-rated profession ever. If that angry chef (sorry he is so insignificant I don't know his name hell's kitchen I think)I would just bust out laughing right in his face...He is a cook just like at Mickey-D's Get over yourself and get a real job.Oh and they really care about if the food is healthy to their customers? give me a break!
I lived in the UK where they have a lot of GM product. Mostly veg and grains. I never cared much for the taste of GM wheat and corn. Those products just seem watered down and flavorless. I cant imagine that doing the same thing to animals would make them taste better. I would much perfer for my foods to be natural. The way God intended them to be not modified straight into something other than what they were meant to be.
How's that Filet O fish at Micky D's doing for you? No one here eats fast food? Bandwagon critics. I would eat it every day and feed it to my kids before I'd buy them a Happy Meal
Nope, don't eat fast food. That is all GMO garbage with other crappy chemicals and filler to color the food, give the food flavor, and allow it to never rot out. Real food is fresh, organic, wholesome and it is not modified genetically.
So what's the solution? Go for only the "real" stuff until it's extinct or too pricey for anyone to afford? That's the message I'm getting from this chef.
Admittedly, whatever marketing person used the term "Genetically Modified" ought to be fired on the spot. It's like saying "Pepsi with chemically-derived sweetener". Brilliant marketing guys...
If you folks knew how radically different our corn is today from the plant it originated from, you'd be shocked. It looks and behaves nothing like the original maize plant so I question his analogy of GA vs GM. The main difference between selective breeding and GM is time.
The long and short of it is that there are too many people and too little food, period. If you have an issue with GM foods, how about Mr. Moonen propose a SOLUTION instead of being an arrogant food snob and saying just eat the "real stuff" until it's extinct.
I see lots of fat people. I don't see why I should be expected to eat this risky food because the countries we export corn to can't use a condom. Why don't YOU go over there and help out and let ME decide not to eat something modified in a lab.
I see you've compared GMOs to traditional breeding. That's a falsehood. They are not equivalent.
Maybe they can add cat genes for vocal chords so the fish can meow when it's big enough to eat. Big differerence breeding for certain traits and adding genes from an eelfish or starfish or robin or wombat (mmmm, wombat)
This chef would be doing his customers and the public a much bigger favor by educating them that we can not sustain the people who already live on the planet – let alone future generations – unless we use new technologies. The biotech salmon represents a high nutrient food source that will be locally grown. It's found to be completely safe by the top regulatory body in the world. You're either part of the solution or part of the problem. Stirring panic by boycotting a safe product means this chef has added an ingredient that this consumer at least would rather skip: ignorance.
Man is part of "nature" thus anything man alters or creates is by definition "natural".
The term natural in that context is intended to differentiate between natural and "man-made."
That being said, something with this large of an implication should be subject to far greater scrutiny than it has, and in a very public fashion. The fact alone that the FDA cannot guarentee 100% sterility in the modified stock is cause for exteme concern.
There is no reason to believe that geneticially modified foods are inherintely bad, in theory it should be possible to modify them to a point were it is safe, however; I would strongly question whether our current level of scientific knowledge is sufficient to actually make that determination.
All of that aside, there are numerous other questions that need to be answere, not the least of which being; does the increased size of the fish leave it vulnerable to developoing a larger buildup of metals in its fatty tissue as has become an issue in other larger fish such as Tuna and Swordfish?
Not to mention implacations to taste; I cannot imagine that a larger fish that grew at an accelerated rate would have the same quality of meat as one raised naturally and allowed a more extended growth period where it would mature...?
Basically: A lot more, very public, testing is key before a decision can be reached.
So by extrapolation atomic weapons, racism and reality television are "natural".
This fish sounds awful to me. I wish the Government would force Aquabounty Frankenfish creators to label their fish accordingly so that consumers can make their own decision about what they want to eat. If not, hopefully other fish farmers/sellers will label their fish as "non genetically modified" and not lie about it. At least this will give consumers some assurance that they are not purchasing the Frankenfish.
You have never eaten at a fast food place? Get off the soap box.
Ur a Douche
Oh, for Pete's sake! Are we sure this clown knows about bacteria? I'd never eat in his restaurant after seeing this; what a stupid fellow. Bobby, ever heard of Luther Burbank? (or spell-check?) Send us all a link about the genetically-altered fish who can take away your freedom of speech, ok? No link? Heard it at the Tea Party?
Hey guys, it's not about the taste. What is being done to us in the name of bigger or better taste or cost reduction is not relevant to the problem of creating something which is not natural and HAS BEEN PROVEN to alter whatever eats it to MODIFY THEM GENETICLY. Link to the research that's already been done and realize we are rolling the dice geneticly...just because we can, And for the sake of big business who's aim is to claim ownership of the food we eat... ALL the food we eat ! If you are not aware of what is going on ...make an effort to educate yourselves. Once we turn the corner on this stuff we won't be able to recall the damage. And damage has already been done repeatedly with the worst yet to come. The aim here is to control food, not improve anything. Just like the aim is to control all of earth's resources so business will have a free rein to charge whatever they want...and they want it ALL. That's the aim...that's the end. Government has no current plan to control this abuse and shows no signs of interest of ever doing so. There is already a massive effort also to control 1st amendment freedom of speech regarding GMO foods...that's right ...you will be arrested for your opinion...Good Luck and remember you now have the facts and still have the right to act. It won't last long. Many countries have banned GMO foods for good cause. Those countries still have their freedom of speech.
Never had a cheese burger? Or eat chicken? Get off you soap box.
Amen! It is nice to know that there are other educated people out there. Be smart and take care of yourself because the FDA, government, pharmaceuticals, etc. will not.
Right, humans have been hybridizing glow in the dark bunnies for centuries. Comparing human assisted plant hybridization to genetic modification is like comparing apples to platypuses.
What an idiot, he isn't even qualified to make the statements he is making. He's a chef, not a scientist, and he has exposed himself as an ignorant moron
Why would you call this chef a moron and not scientific? The FDA has designated this new fish genetic engineering to be a drug: "an article intended to alter the structure or function of the body of man or animal." This is not the same as a hybrid. Don't forget all the law suits that follow damages to human from drugs. People don't want to go to a restaurant and hope that the food won't hurt them. Dr. Chile you need to chill out
Obviously you dont know how the FDA works. By designating it a drug, it must comply with the much more stringent drug regualations rather than the food regulations. This allows the FDA to keep a tighter watch since this product does have a certain degree of unknowns. It does not, however, mean that it is really a drug.
I guess he won't serve Black Angus beef either, or use freestone peaches in a dessert; they aren't "natural" either. Humans have been altering land-based livestock and produce for millenia. There's no reason why we shouldn't do the same with seafood. If we refuse to eat seafood that does not live wild in the ocean, will soon have to give it up altogether because people are eating wild fish faster than they can reproduce.
There's a big difference between selective breeding and genetic engineering.
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