5@5 - Chefs Wolfgang Ban and Eduard Frauneder
September 3rd, 2010
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Wolfgang Ban and Eduard Frauneder are co-owners and executive chefs of Seäsonal Restaurant & Weinbar in New York City. Their modern interpretations of classic Austrian and Germain cuisine earned the restaurant a Michelin star.

With the kick-off of Oktoberfest quickly approaching on September 18, it's never too early to grab your beer mug and start tapping into those fall brews.

Five Beers for an Authentic Oktoberfest: Wolfgang Ban and Eduard Frauneder

1. Altenmünster
"One of the most beautiful regions in Germany is the Allgäu, home of Altenmünster Brewer’s Beer. The Allgäu is a land of lush, green meadows, hills and lakes that give way to a majestic mountain backdrop. Altenmünster is made from rediscovered recipes and uses long-forgotten ingredients to create a full-flavored and timeless beer. With a sweet and smooth malt body, Altenmünster is the ideal companion for spicy Gulasch, Kässpatzen, ox roast, German dumplings and hearty boar dishes."

2. Clausthaler
"Clausthaler has been the undisputed champion among non-alcoholic brews in Germany since its inception. Clausthaler is among Germany's leading export beverage brands and is regarded the world's best non-alcoholic brew. A major reason for this outstanding product quality is the unique (and patented) Clausthaler brewing process, which allows the brewmaster to prevent the formation of alcohol, rather than removing the alcohol after the brewing process. How does Clausthaler do it? Top secret … but it pairs well with white meats and fresh seafood."

3. Schlösser
"Brewed in the unmistakable Düsseldorf style, Schlösser has a distinctive fresh and spicy taste. A standard everyday drink in the Lower Rhine region, the strong malty ale finishes with a fine bitter taste of hops. The amber and copper color and spicy freshness pairs perfectly with hearty foods such as roasted pork, smoked sausage or potato pancakes with applesauce and cherry crepes."

4. Hövels
"Hövels is Hövels: it’s completely unique and cannot be categorized as any one type of beer. Brewed in Dortmund, one of Germany’s most traditional brewing regions, Hövels has been a great success since 1893. The beer uses four different fine malts and a traditional mashing process to make an amber-colored beer that has undertones of caramel, bread and dark raisin-y fruits. The caramel notes and mellow taste are ideal for meat dishes as well as starters, like wild mushrooms, and even goes well with sweet desserts."

5. Schöfferhofer
"Fankfurt am Main, commonly known as Frankfurt, is the home of the fine Schöfferhofer Hefeweizen. A top-fermented, full-bodied beer with a distinctive and slightly sweet, floral aroma, Schöfferhofer Hefeweizen is one of Germany’s most well-known wheat beers. The cloudy wheat beer has a smooth malt background and rich yeast flavor with a zesty lemon crispness. This tangy, dry beer is best paired with lighter foods such as sushi, salads, seafoods and, of course, the classic Weisswurst."

Is there someone you'd like to see in the hot seat? Let us know in the comments below and if we agree, we'll do our best to chase 'em down.

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  1. Gary Wolf

    I was as in Bavaria last month for 9 days. Oktoberfest is not a "German" festival. It is strictly Bavarian. The article does not name one beer from Bavaria. I do not understand this. I think this is a shame. My vote goes to Paulaner dunkles and Andechs dopplebock. The editor responsible for this article needs to be let go. Pathetic.

    September 25, 2011 at 10:08 am | Reply
  2. rachael

    I can't believe this worthless article can still be found on the homepage after 5 days! CNN, how about a redo with REAL Oktoberfest beers???

    September 8, 2010 at 6:06 am | Reply
  3. captgg

    It's been quite a while, but I really enjoyed Dinkelacker while in bavaria

    September 7, 2010 at 5:48 pm | Reply
  4. Erik

    I hope anyone reading this ridiculous article will ignore these moronic suggestions. If you live in the US and you want a REAL Oktoberfest suggestion, here you go:

    1. Ayinger Oktoberfest - Bavarian beer from Aying, Bayern. Excellent brew, but hard to find and a little expensive.

    2. Samuel Adams Octoberfest - Highly under rated American beer that is well worth drinking and easily found.

    3. Paulaner Oktoberfest - Excellent Oktoberfest beer, not terribly hard to find, actually served in Munich.

    4. Kostritzer - This is a Schwarzbier from eastern Germany. It wouldn't make it into Oktoberfest either, but it is an excellent German beer. Although its body is completely black it has the soul of a better German pilsner with just the ever-so-slightest taste of smoke. (An American copy of this beer is Samuel Adams Black Lager–it's a distant second though.)

    5. Victory Prima Pils - Another American beer, this time from the craft Victory brewery in Pennsylvania. This is one of the most excellent German pilsners on the market today. This beer would be difficult to find outside of the northeastern US, but if you live there it is well worth trying. This is one of my favorite beers. (A substitute here could be Pilsner Urquell.)

    Now that is truth.. prost!

    September 7, 2010 at 4:36 pm | Reply
    • Franz

      Erik, you are right on about Ayinger bier! I bought 3 cases of this brew in late August–I ordered it straight from the distributor in Milwaukee–and had it delivered to a store. What a wunderbaar bier!

      September 25, 2011 at 8:48 am | Reply
  5. Erik

    Is this a joke?

    Oktoberfest is Bavarian, not German. Those of you thinking it's a German festival are mistaken. To suggest five beers and not a single one of them is from Munich or is a märzen is very disappointing. What is shocking and utterly appalling is the fact that the five suggestions these two men made included three Alt/ Kolsch beers from Northern Germany and a non-alcoholic beer!? The closest thing to a Bavarian beer on the list is the Schofferhofer and that's from bloody Frankfurt! There isn't a single lager on this list and I am shocked that these men have a Michelin star; that tells me the true value of the Michelin stars!

    September 7, 2010 at 4:22 pm | Reply
  6. J Man

    give me any one of these, as long as its in a tall glass with lots of ice

    September 7, 2010 at 2:03 pm | Reply
  7. Schmucker

    best beer ever – Miller Hohe Lebensdauer. Es lebt in meinem Herzen.

    September 7, 2010 at 1:37 pm | Reply
  8. Cheryl Kent

    I went to an Oktoberfest in Georgia a few years back and they served Hacker-Pschorr – the real thing. They shipped it over along with the wurst and crusty white rolls. German beer is not pasturized, thus the reason you don't get a hangover when over-indulging. The beer was fabulous, the band was authentic – very few of them spoke English – and it was a treat I'll never forget. I lived in Germany for about 9 years and the Fest in Stuttgart started a week after Munich, so there was three whole weeks of celebration! Just to go back to Munich again! Aufweidersein!

    September 7, 2010 at 12:17 pm | Reply
  9. Oho

    I wonder why nobody here has mentioned the one and only Helles beer that can actually beat Augustiner Helles: Tegernseer Hell!
    I know there are a bunch of Edel Versions like Augustiner Edelstoff or the Oktoberfest version of it, which might be considered better, but those can't be considered standard beers.
    I hang out with people from Munich all the time and go snowboarding in the area frequently every year and clearly everybody there that knows something about beer prefers Tegernseer over other beer, if it's available.

    September 7, 2010 at 10:04 am | Reply
  10. Deuce

    Bier her, Bier her oder ich fall um, juche.

    I love Hofbräu Original with some Weißwürste an a pretzel. To this day I'm dying to go back to Munich for a bier and Pretzels. best beer and best pretzels ever.

    September 7, 2010 at 10:02 am | Reply
  11. Don

    I was at the BIG Oktoberfest in Munich in 2000. I don't remember seeing any of those beers listed above in the article. I sat in the Spaten tent when I was there because that was the only tent in which I could get a seat. To my recollection, the beers featured were Paulaner, Hacker-Pschorr, Augustiner, Lowenbrau, Warsteiner, and of course Spaten. I am sure I leaving a few out but it was my understanding that the Oktoberfest in Munich is put on by the beer makers in Munich. Anything coming from northern Germany would not be included.

    September 7, 2010 at 9:00 am | Reply
  12. Joanne

    Sorry. Not one of those beers would be served in Munich at the big daddy of all Oktoberfests. Come on, beer from northern Germany in Bayern?? Not happening. Not when Munich has some of the best beer in the world. Lived there for a few yrs in the 80's and would go back in a heartbeat. I was telling my roommate about this article filled with scorn for the selections last night and he laughed at me and stated this article was likely written by folks who've never been to Oktoberfest and don't have a clue as to what it really is about. I'd have to agree with him. It's amazing to see how many people DO know.

    September 6, 2010 at 9:57 am | Reply
  13. Robbie

    My vote is Tucher hefeweizen ....ummmmm

    September 6, 2010 at 12:39 am | Reply
  14. bernd

    these dudes are obviously East German. unglaublich. last time in muenchen, went to a kloister w/ my father. i think it was called Andechs( sp? was long ago). chubby monks waddling about with red noses and happy, blissful smiles. black, hearty brew. i'll never forget it. anyting ausserhalb bayern : kein oktoberfest bier!

    September 5, 2010 at 3:13 pm | Reply
  15. Prost

    As far as I know, both of these chefs are Austrian – now I have nothing against Austrians, but as authorities on Oktoberfest bier?
    I'm surprised Stiegl didn't make their list.
    What editor approved this story?

    September 5, 2010 at 11:36 am | Reply
  16. Rohit Rai

    Never came across these beers in Park City UT..liquor store or supermarkets...so how to find them and check if they really are the top5 beer.

    September 5, 2010 at 6:33 am | Reply
    • how to find them?

      is alcohol legal in Utah?

      September 6, 2010 at 10:39 pm | Reply
  17. Dave

    If you want a genuine Oktoberfest, drink one of the following helles: Augustiner (probably the best), Spaten, Hacker-Pschor, Paulaner, Hofbrau Haus, Kaltenberg, Hassen brau. PS: you have to go to Bavaria and get the beer – the versions sold in the US are swill.

    September 5, 2010 at 6:19 am | Reply
  18. Dave

    I've lived in Bavaria, Germany, since 1994, and I have learned a few things about German beer. Not one of the beers mentioned above would make it through the gates of Oktoberfest. They are not Bavarian beers – they are pils' brewed outside of Bavaria. Any genuine Bavarian helles beer (the beer served at O'fest) is infinately superior to the swills listed above. Beer from Dortmund! Are you kidding?

    September 5, 2010 at 6:15 am | Reply
  19. Skeiron

    Obviously those beers are about as "authentic" Oktoberfest beers as Foster's and Budweiser ;-)

    September 5, 2010 at 5:12 am | Reply
  20. Darryl

    Just a thought, but possibly the idiot is the article writer and not the two chefs. I could see him/her asking them for a list of 5 recommended German beers, and then posting their response as "Five Beers for an Authentic Oktoberfest". I seriously doubt someone named Wolfgang would make the mistake of saying that beers from Dusseldorf and Frankfurt are "authentic Oktoberfest" beers!

    September 5, 2010 at 4:21 am | Reply
    • Kevin

      Good Point!

      September 5, 2010 at 2:19 pm | Reply
      • maybe?

        asked something like – "if I were standing in Walmart in the middle of Ohio and wanted the best of October Fest"

        September 6, 2010 at 10:40 pm | Reply
  21. ads

    Augustiner is my favorite. Who wrote this garbage?

    September 5, 2010 at 12:36 am | Reply
  22. Ryan

    How come no one is mentioning that they also have to be Marzen beers, according to the tradition?

    September 4, 2010 at 9:48 pm | Reply
  23. Biermann

    One word to define Wolfgang and Eduard – Tourist! No respect for bayerische Kultur. They probably think Oktoberfest occurs in October.

    September 4, 2010 at 9:03 pm | Reply
  24. Robert

    I loved Oktoberfest and ALL the beers! What took getting used to was going into the Paulaner tent to find some 1,500 Germans singing John Denver's "Rocky Mountain High" to an oomph band. That was a real trip!

    September 4, 2010 at 8:27 pm | Reply
  25. Thorrsman

    What about Spaten? Or perhaps that favorite in Munchen, Hofbrau? Back when I was over there, both of those were quite popular at all the beerfests.

    September 4, 2010 at 7:17 pm | Reply
  26. pizza guy

    beer is good, and stuff....

    September 4, 2010 at 4:37 pm | Reply
    • and stuff?

      no and stuff; beer is good. end of sentence.

      September 6, 2010 at 10:42 pm | Reply
  27. AnyMouse

    Sorry – Bavarian, I'm also from Bavaria and yes, while none of the beers you mentioned are readily available at the commercialized Oktoberfest in Munich, there are countless similar Beer festivals – all over Germany, during the same time. Las Vegas has a fairly authentic version of the Hofbräuhaus now, complete with an indoor Beer Garden. The beer and food are excellent but expensive, unfortunately the portions are tiny, and their desserts suck. Torten made with American style frosting ... bleh! There is even an Oktoberfest in Los Angeles, that is pretty nice. They used to (Alpine Village) brew their own Bavarian in their Brewery right there, and it was pretty authentic, and tasty. I stopped going there when they started serving Budweiser. :D As for the above beer choices, there is a point in that certain beers, just as wines will go better with certain dishes. I personally agree with chooices #1 and #3!! I won't drink beer unless it is either Dutch or German, preferably Spaten or Henniger. And even then, I usually mix it 50/50 with diet 7-UP, to make a Radler ( Biermischgetränk ). Unfortunately, most of my dinner guests have HATED Henniger, citing its too metalic tasting and bitter. I can't stand the taste of St. Pauli, and even I find that kind of weird. ♥

    September 4, 2010 at 3:42 pm | Reply
  28. Der Ratgeber

    Who cares about Oktoberfest bier. Give me a Guenzberger Rat Weizen any day, weiss Worst mit Senf, and I'm a happy camper.

    Dankeschoen, bitterschoen, wiedersehen,
    Noch ein Bier, kommen Sie hier,
    I'm Rosa, I'm kleine, I nichts verstehen,
    I wish I could Sprechen Sie Deutsch.

    –FSK

    September 4, 2010 at 7:42 am | Reply
  29. SpottedCow

    OK, very hypothetical here – They just poured the last stein of German Oktoberfest beer – it is now all gone, but you are still thirsty and you have a warm pretzel to wash down. All that is left in the world are American Oktoberfest beers. What do you do: 1) Grab the best the States has to offer, or 2) Call it a night and sleep it off? If your choice is #1, which beer do you choose?

    September 3, 2010 at 11:43 pm | Reply
  30. Seymore

    My raccoon just had babies!

    September 3, 2010 at 11:42 pm | Reply
  31. Lionking

    In Germany we have a saying "Schuster, bleib' bei Deinen Leisten" – meaning you should stay with your profession.
    Those two chefs may be good with food, but have absolutely no clue about beer

    September 3, 2010 at 10:51 pm | Reply
  32. EinProsit

    Sorry, but as an American who lived in Munich, whoever posted this article knows nothing about German beers, Bavaria, or Oktoberfest. So, so sad. Do your homework before writing an article, idiot.

    September 3, 2010 at 10:47 pm | Reply
  33. Auslander

    wait that was einz, zwei drei tuzufi (really was never sure what that last word was)

    September 3, 2010 at 10:13 pm | Reply
    • Spaten fan

      Das Word ist Zuffa!

      September 4, 2010 at 12:28 am | Reply
      • Frank

        nope, the word is"gsuffa" and is slang for "gesoffen" what is also another slang word for getrunken".....to the article from these 2 tools....if they don't know about the authentic october fest bier list how authentic is their German food lol...they probably have michelin tires on their car but not a michelin star for their restaurant.. :-)

        September 5, 2010 at 1:04 pm | Reply
  34. Auslander

    ein prosit, ein prosit (the way they sing it, not how to really spell it)............. .einz zwei drei prost!

    September 3, 2010 at 10:12 pm | Reply
  35. Yager

    Brost!

    September 3, 2010 at 9:45 pm | Reply
  36. servus

    Yeah...the only Bavarian beer is the Altenmuenster, and none of the others will be found at the Oktoberfest. You guys obviously have no idea what you are talking about. As other users have already pointed out, only Bavarian Beers (most of them from Munich) will be served. Also, what the hell is up with the out-of-place Umlaut in your restaurant's name? Can anybody actually pronounce that? But I'll grant you this, Altenmuenster is great beer, highly recommended.

    September 3, 2010 at 9:02 pm | Reply
  37. guesser

    Just a nitpick.. If the Clausthaler brewing method is patented, I don't see how it can be top secret (you can make it a trade secret or a patent – pick one). Do German patents work that differently than ours?

    September 3, 2010 at 8:58 pm | Reply
  38. Klaus the Angry Squirrel

    Spaten Munich, you dipz!

    September 3, 2010 at 8:48 pm | Reply
  39. CRGERMANY

    This is totally wrong. Unfortunate that CNN posted it. Nothing from Bavaria- NO TRUE PILS.

    September 3, 2010 at 8:38 pm | Reply
    • Rob

      You my firiend are correct!

      September 3, 2010 at 10:56 pm | Reply
  40. Tom J

    I love the Sunset Wheat too, but I'll admit to being a gringo. I cannot get it in Hawaii and it is tough to find West of Colorado.

    September 3, 2010 at 8:37 pm | Reply
  41. steve

    OMFG! My wife is German and my kids live in Germany. A NON-Alcoholic beer authentic really??? These two are probably or would be beaten to a pulp. Germans take their real beers seriously and these two are idiots. I would like to know who wrote this article? They are not even closely checking their facts about these beers. The beer that I drink is made by Monks and the recipe has not changed since 1600's.

    September 3, 2010 at 8:35 pm | Reply
    • Lionking

      Damn...why don't they export Andechs to the US ? :)

      September 3, 2010 at 10:37 pm | Reply
  42. smee22

    No Erdinger Weizen? wtf. Erdinger is the worlds best beer and thats a fact.

    September 3, 2010 at 8:27 pm | Reply
  43. Barleyman

    Ditto... None of the beers is:

    1. Brewed in Munich
    2. Of the Oktoberfest styles (Helles)
    3. You can't buy any of them at Oktoberfest.

    This isn't being picky, just being true to Oktoberfest.

    Now if the title of the article was "5 Great German Beers you should try!" I'd agree. Then I'd point out that none of them are from Munich. ;-)

    September 3, 2010 at 8:15 pm | Reply
    • Prost!

      Actually the Festbier is a Märzen. It is a special type of brew made specifically for the fest. Hence why everyone refers to it as Festbier and not just plain Helles.

      I spent a year in Germany and went to the fest about 10 times. From personal experience and from what I learned over the course of the year, here is the order of beer from best to worst:

      1. Augustiner
      2. Hacker Pschorr
      3. Höfbräu
      4. Paulaner
      5. Löwenbräu
      6. Spaten

      Despite the fact that Lowenbrau is horrible in the US, the Festbier they make is actually not bad. Besides, lagers don't travel well anyway. It is probably why Augustiner doesn't export the real stuff to the US (they only send the Edelstoff version, which is subpar at best).

      September 3, 2010 at 10:02 pm | Reply
      • closer to what I would pick

        probably, due to taste, there would be a list for each poster, not with standing just how bad the original article list is

        but this one is closer to what I would choose

        September 4, 2010 at 11:30 am | Reply
  44. conch

    Bayern ist Bayern.

    September 3, 2010 at 8:10 pm | Reply
  45. Will

    This is ludicrous. This is like making a list of "Authentic New Orleans Cuisine" and only listing dishes from New York. To have a list of authentic Oktoberfest beers and not have Augustiner or ANY of the amazing beers from Munich (you know, where the ACTUAL OCTOBERFEST IS) is truly ridiculous. CNN, did you vet these doofuses, or what? To anyone that's been to Oktoberfest, this list is so stupid, it almost has to be a joke.

    September 3, 2010 at 8:04 pm | Reply
  46. the real muenchner Kindl

    This is everything but a good list for an authentic Oktoberfest. None of those beers are brewed in Munich.

    Only beers that are brewed in Munich are allowed on the Oktoberfest!!!!!!! E.g. Paulaner or Spaten or Hacker Pschorr.

    Try those and you will enjoy your Oktoberfest.

    September 3, 2010 at 7:54 pm | Reply
  47. T-Cart

    Brill! yet again somebody who has no clue about German and in this case Bavarian beers telling the "world" what Octoberfest beers to drink! In the same way that after 12 years in the US I have yet to find some decent German food (and Greek for that matter) and as a true and real bred Bavarian with a degree in Brewery Engineering please consider the following:
    Oktoberfest Bier is a certain kind of Bock beer brewed specifically for this occasion – that said given the rules of Oktoberfest (note I will use the German spelling) it is technically limited to Munich based breweries, though others in Bavaria will put on an Oktoberfest style beer.

    None (repeat NONE) of the beers above remotely resemble the style of an Oktoberfest beer, so please don't give advice that has nothing to do with the actual thing ... Clausthaler??? you must be on crack .... and I have yet to see wild boar, Kaesspatzen or wild mushroom dishes at Oktoberfest .... but then maybe I have been drunk all these last 30 plus years which would also mean that I have no clue why Schöfferhofer is mentioned as one of Germany's most favored Wheatbeers ...... gee! This is like saying Budweiser is the cream of the crop in American beers .... grow up, get your facts right and stop talking about things you have no clue what you are talking about.

    September 3, 2010 at 7:30 pm | Reply
    • T-Cart

      the Munich based breweries are:
      Spaten
      Hofbrau
      Augustiner
      Hacker-Pschorr
      Lowenbrau
      Paulaner
      Technically Schneider has a facility in Munich but they do not do lagers

      September 3, 2010 at 8:04 pm | Reply
  48. Savant

    Augustiner is missing in the list. This is about Oktoberfest, right?

    September 3, 2010 at 7:25 pm | Reply
  49. Ich bin ein Yankee

    Sauerbraten, Knödel, red kraut, enjoyed with Löwenbräu,. No finer meal at the Oktoberfest.

    September 3, 2010 at 7:05 pm | Reply
  50. RICKFROM PA

    My wife and I recently returned from Southern Germany and we both still love Spaten! Since our last trip in the late 80's, we were also glad to see that most establishments are serving "chilled beer"!

    September 3, 2010 at 7:01 pm | Reply
  51. Kurt

    After living in germany and being to multiple oktoberfests, this list is an abomination.

    September 3, 2010 at 7:00 pm | Reply
    • rarely does eatocracy completely satisfy

      a large percentage of the articles, even from guest chefs, are great, many make say "why did you waste my time"

      September 4, 2010 at 11:27 am | Reply
  52. zaxhere247

    Sapperlot! Seid's ihr Narrisch???!!!!

    For an authentic Oktoberfest (Wiesn) you need the following biers. Yes, I said BIER!

    The Munich 6:
    1. Augustinerbrau – The best, ask anyone in Munich.
    2. Hofbrau
    3. Paulaner
    4. Hacker-Pschorr
    5. Spaten ( Lass Dir raten)
    6. Lowenbrau

    The Munich 6 are the ONLY biers allowed at the Oktoberfest in Munich anyway. No Beck, no Warsteiner, and of course no American beer, just the above listed biers. Kings proclaimation back in 1810. The biers in the artical are all good but not allowed so it wouldn't be authentic.

    For food or "Bayerisches Wiesn Schmankerl" I recommend:
    1. Schweinhaxe (Roasted pork schank)
    2. Schweinsbraten (Pork roast) with Sauerkraut and Knoedel (potato dumpling).
    3. 1/2 grilled Chicken with German potato salad.

    Why you ask. I spent 5 years as a Chef in Munich. I lost count how many O-fest I made it to. Great experience and a lot of fun!

    September 3, 2010 at 6:38 pm | Reply
    • RichardHead

      Uhh-You got any regular Coors Beer? This other stuff sends me running to the can.

      September 3, 2010 at 6:42 pm | Reply
    • pete sampras

      I am going to guess you went to 5 Oktoberfests. Just a guess. You know, since you were there for five years, and there is only one per year.

      September 3, 2010 at 6:46 pm | Reply
      • John

        Ownage.

        September 3, 2010 at 7:40 pm | Reply
      • zaxhere247

        pete pete pete. It last 2 weeks. You don't just go once in a two week period you go multiple times.... Arschgeige!

        September 3, 2010 at 8:46 pm | Reply
      • Kevin

        Also, he said he was a chef there for 5 years...it didn't say how long he was there as something other then a chef...he could have spent additional years there as a student or something as well.

        September 5, 2010 at 2:10 pm | Reply
      • Marvin W.

        bad guess SFB.

        September 5, 2010 at 6:09 pm | Reply
    • BLH

      I am so glad someone mentioned Hacker Pschorr. That is what I had when I first visited Germany. I liked it then, and I like it now. I did not realize it was an official Oktoberfest bier, but I am not surprised either.Yum.

      September 3, 2010 at 10:32 pm | Reply
    • Juan L

      Authentic Oktoberfest beers my A**. These two pretenders or clowns know nothing about Oktoberfest beers, nothing about the tradition of the same. There are only 6 beers served at Oktoberfest and none of them are mentioned by these two idiots. Perhaps if they talk about traditional Oktoberfest brots they will probably select frankfurters. Idiots!!!

      September 3, 2010 at 10:47 pm | Reply
    • PDIKEMAN

      YOU know your biers....I would drink with you anytime!

      September 4, 2010 at 12:21 pm | Reply
    • RALPH

      AT THE OCTOBERFEST YOU DRINK BEER FROM MUNICH NOT FROM DUSSELDORF. THESE 2 CLOWNS DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT.

      September 4, 2010 at 6:06 pm | Reply
      • Marvin W.

        It's for a new keyboard RALPH. Your CapsLock key is stuck.

        September 5, 2010 at 6:11 pm | Reply
      • Marvin W.

        That should have read "It's time for a new keyboard."

        September 5, 2010 at 6:12 pm | Reply
    • sornord

      Maisel's Weizen

      September 5, 2010 at 6:19 am | Reply
    • mike licavoli

      I once gave a German neighbor a six pack of Bud as a joke....he was highly insluted!

      September 6, 2010 at 2:52 pm | Reply
  53. Dan K

    I agree with LJ. Die Wiesn is a celebration from Munich(regarding a marriage no less), and as such should include beers from Munich. While I have nothing against trying other beers, I suggest you make an Oktoberfest list true to it's name.

    September 3, 2010 at 6:29 pm | Reply
  54. Swimmer23

    Beer sucks. It's such a pointless drug. Marijuana makes even the worst food taste like a 5 star meal.

    September 3, 2010 at 6:22 pm | Reply
    • RichardHead

      Beer is not a drug. MaryJane on the other hand is. Please put down your Doobie and flag down the first police officer that you see. It's a Holiday weekend so you will get Good Food.

      September 3, 2010 at 6:38 pm | Reply
      • Jdizzle McHammerpants

        -1 for 'Head. X) j/k

        September 3, 2010 at 8:51 pm | Reply
      • put down that doobie?

        Are you crazy? That is pot abuse!

        September 4, 2010 at 11:25 am | Reply
      • Marvin W.

        My goodness, look at the time – it's nearly 4:20.

        September 5, 2010 at 6:26 pm | Reply
    • Rob

      Your an idiot, beer is 10x better than anything you could smoke or inject. Get a life.

      September 3, 2010 at 10:55 pm | Reply
      • Get a life.

        I have a life. what a nice one it is

        September 4, 2010 at 11:26 am | Reply
      • Marvin W.

        If you are going to call someone an idiot you might want to consider spelling correctly. Otherwise you look like just as much an idiot as they do if not more so.

        It is you're.

        September 5, 2010 at 6:07 pm | Reply
      • Adam

        beer is great!!! especially with a nice fat blunt!!

        September 6, 2010 at 10:14 am | Reply
  55. Uncle Charlie

    Gentlemen – stick to your food. I would never drink beer with sushi. You pick "five beers" to make an Authentic Oktoberfest – there are hundreds that are made just in Bavaria. Missed the point – way off base. No merit for your article. Sorry.

    September 3, 2010 at 6:08 pm | Reply
    • Marvin W.

      I would not drink anything EXCEPT beer with sushi and the Japanese beers like Asahi or Sapporo are great with it. If you use a lot of wasabi on your sushi the combination tastes even better. MUCH better !

      BTW – I'm not talking about mixing a little of it into your soy sauce. You need to put the stuff right on the fish and lots of it. I guarantee that your sinuses will be pefectly clear after you've eaten it like this.

      September 5, 2010 at 6:23 pm | Reply
  56. crm041066

    The whole point of drinking is, to get drunk.

    September 3, 2010 at 6:03 pm | Reply
    • drunk

      you've not tried german beers, have you

      you do get drunk, true, but that is secondary, what a drinking experience german beer is

      September 4, 2010 at 11:24 am | Reply
    • Kevin

      No...thats the point of being an alchoholic (along with serving as a example of "what not to do" for the rest of humanity)
      The point of drinking is to enjoy the beverage.. otherwise why not just save yourself the time, effort and money and chug some straight grain alchohol until you pass out?
      Really...you sound like either a drunk or an inexperienced child (by which I mean under 25).

      September 5, 2010 at 2:04 pm | Reply
  57. PatrickB

    This list does not have Oktoberfest beers. Oktoberfest beers are generally from Munich or Bavaria. Oktoberfest is a celebration of the marriage of a Bavarian prince and princess. It is not a German festival/celebration. These chefs fail, and they even have German sounding last names.

    September 3, 2010 at 6:02 pm | Reply
  58. Kyle

    Personally, I prefer the Augustiner tent and the Helles inside it. Nothing beat the classic, don't know about Helles, itself but Augustiner has been around some 700 years in Munich, so that says something to an authentic Bavarian beer

    September 3, 2010 at 6:00 pm | Reply
    • zaxhere247

      Jawohl!....Kyle, PROST!

      September 3, 2010 at 7:06 pm | Reply
    • Dennis

      I agree Augustiner – Edelstoff for me!

      September 3, 2010 at 8:38 pm | Reply
  59. Jdizzle McHammerpants

    It's 5 o'clock!!

    September 3, 2010 at 5:57 pm | Reply
    • somewhere

      in the world, there is always a 5 o'clock

      September 4, 2010 at 11:23 am | Reply
  60. widge

    huh? None of these are "Authentic" Oktoberfest beers.

    September 3, 2010 at 5:54 pm | Reply
    • tifoso

      Most like promoting beers featured in their restaurants.

      September 3, 2010 at 9:32 pm | Reply
  61. PDIKEMAN

    This article has little to NO merit.....hard to believe it was even posted.

    September 3, 2010 at 5:52 pm | Reply
  62. LJ

    An AUTHENTIC Oktoberfest celebration would include beers from Munich, Germany as that is the home of the festival. Each brewery crafts specific beers for the festival. The best (of my personal opinion) is Augustiner. The other breweries that take part in the festival each year include, Spaten, Paulaner, Hofbräu München, Hacker-Pschorr, Löwenbräu, and Nymphenburger Sekt.

    Also, I think it worthy to mention that this is the 200th Anniversary of Oktoberfest.

    September 3, 2010 at 5:51 pm | Reply
  63. andrew

    sorry. I'm sticking with leinenkugel sunset wheat. the best beer ever.

    September 3, 2010 at 5:47 pm | Reply
    • KDUBS

      Sunset Wheat?!?! Are you crazy?

      September 3, 2010 at 5:51 pm | Reply
    • Fubarchaeo

      Real beer is not sweet, especially nothing at Oktoberfest. That stuff tastes like fruity pebbles.

      September 3, 2010 at 7:13 pm | Reply
      • Interesting...

        Oktoberfest beers actually can have a heightened malt profile which can lead to a sweeter beer. Your comment that "real beer isn't sweet" is extremely misinformed.

        September 5, 2010 at 2:58 pm | Reply
    • Tukker

      I'll smoke my joint instead, thanks.

      September 3, 2010 at 8:06 pm | Reply
      • Jdizzle McHammerpants

        Word. Pass that sh**.

        September 3, 2010 at 8:49 pm | Reply
      • what it is, what it is

        and puleese, don't bogart

        September 4, 2010 at 11:21 am | Reply
    • Rob

      Your brand is great, Lieni is one of the best American/German beer brands. But I encurage you to get out and try more.

      September 3, 2010 at 10:53 pm | Reply
      • Interesting...

        "Leini" is awful. If you want solid American interpretations of German styles, stick with Victory Brewing.

        September 5, 2010 at 2:57 pm | Reply
  64. dutchie

    You totally missed the Paulaner, that's the best German beer!!

    September 3, 2010 at 5:43 pm | Reply
  65. Bavarian

    As a REAL Bavarian living in the US I must say the list is good, BUT not Oktoberfest 'real' and here is why!!!
    1. No beer from the Duesseldorf area at Oktoberfest
    2. No Frankfurt beer at Oktoberfest
    3. No Dortmund beer at Oktoberfest

    IF we want to stay semi-true to the event we should go with the correct ones. I respect the guys based on their Michelin star, but please don't hack our culture. That's like saying all Americans are from Wasilla, Alaska... I think you wouldn't like that either?

    September 3, 2010 at 5:43 pm | Reply
    • conch

      bingo!

      September 3, 2010 at 5:47 pm | Reply
    • SF

      100% agree. And I come "only" from Hamburg.
      Why would you even consider Clausthaler???

      September 3, 2010 at 6:12 pm | Reply
      • tifoso

        Agreed about Clausthaler. It is OK but only just. Give it a B-. Better than Buckler (D) and the American NA's are an unfunny joke (G or H on a scale of A to F). If there is a superior Bayerischen NA it has slipped by me. The top two I can find locally (Tampa) are Becks and St. Pauli (A-). Both are better than most American alcohol beers.

        September 3, 2010 at 9:30 pm | Reply
      • Lionking

        Shake hands Hamburger :)
        I'd put Duckstein in my personal list of great beers, but this is not about 'the best beer', it's about Oktoberfest beer and these clowns apparently have absolutely no clue what a real Oktoberfest bier is.....

        Btw, thanks to Costco I'm drinking a Paulaner Oktoberfest Maerzen while typing :)

        September 3, 2010 at 10:44 pm | Reply
      • Tandberg

        Yeah, and Clausthaler doesn't even have an umlaut in its name! (All the others do.) Hmph, the nerve!

        September 7, 2010 at 9:28 am | Reply
      • SFM

        Hummel Hummel bro

        September 7, 2010 at 2:39 pm | Reply
    • Don

      So is Altenmünster the only one on the list we should consider if we want to do it right?

      September 3, 2010 at 6:25 pm | Reply
    • Geoff

      Thank you for the comment. After visiting Munich last year I no longer am satisfied with anything other than something brewed under the German purity law. How these people can post these beers as "traditional" boggles the mind. I fully enjoyed my time in Bavaria at the Augustiner and of course the Hofbrauhaus, however much of a tourist attraction it may be.

      September 3, 2010 at 6:41 pm | Reply
    • Mike

      I'm glad you said something. My heritage is Bavarian and I've been there several times and when I saw this list, I was very confused. Can't believe the lack of research that went into this. Augustinerbrau IS the best!

      September 3, 2010 at 6:47 pm | Reply
      • Don Savant

        This about Oktoberfest, so there needs to be at one real Bavarian brew. Where is Augustiner?

        September 3, 2010 at 7:22 pm | Reply
      • Dennis

        Augustiner Brau Edelstoff and Hacker Pschorr Sternwisse are the best. The Hacker Pschorr Sternwisse is the only heffewisse I'll consider. Augustiner Brau Edelstoff is my dessert beer, like Schwartzwalder Kirschtorte is a great dessert.

        September 3, 2010 at 8:34 pm | Reply
    • pmmarion

      Yeah, but some of the "real" Ocktoberfest beir is the pits. like Loewenbrau. I would rather drink Budweiser or Busch before i would drink Loewenbrau.

      September 3, 2010 at 7:48 pm | Reply
      • Biots

        and you would rather watch NASCAR, vote for idiots like Bush and condemn Obama as a Muslim and pray for Jesus to come back and give you money to fix your wife's teeth

        Heeeeehaw!

        September 4, 2010 at 11:00 pm | Reply
    • Tom

      I just got back to the States from Munich after a few months. I'm pretty sure the REAL Oktoberfest beers are supposed to be Bavarian! Where are the facts, Augustiner , Paulaner, and my personal favorite Franziskaner Dunkel. Servus!

      September 3, 2010 at 7:53 pm | Reply
      • David

        Love Paulaner... Don't forget Spaten

        September 5, 2010 at 11:09 am | Reply
      • Interesting...

        Well, Franziskaner is made by Spaten, so it was kinda mentioned.

        September 5, 2010 at 2:55 pm | Reply
    • Lorenzo the Hun

      Thank you for pointing out what should have been obvious to the food fashionistas!

      September 3, 2010 at 8:06 pm | Reply
    • Feldafinger

      You took the words out of my mouth. I grew up just outside of Munich and had my first beers at the Wies'n and many more through the years. These clods have obviously no idea what the Oktoberfest is about and probably have never been there. They may know Germain??? but they don't know German or Bavarian. And what the 'ell is Seäsonal?

      Himmiherrgottzakramentzefixallelujahmileckstamarschsheissglumpverekst!

      September 3, 2010 at 8:42 pm | Reply
    • Auslander

      I have to agree with this. Real Oktoberfest happens from Augsberg south. To their list I say "nord deutche leute ist kaput". Ah so, Bitburger, is ein shoenist bier aber nicht sud duetche. Sorry, 25 years since my language studies, no offense to all my friends auf Deustshland. But really Dortmund beer for Oktoberfest? Richtig?!

      September 3, 2010 at 10:00 pm | Reply
      • Auslander

        Sorry, I must ad this. If these posers want to feel all "different" about their selections they could actually go further south in Germany and pick some of the rauch (smoked) beers for the monasteries. Those at least would be authentic.

        I also am totally with the poster on the black forest cherry cheese cake, making me hungry just thinig about it.

        September 3, 2010 at 10:08 pm | Reply
    • Jonboy

      Munchen Pilsner FTW

      September 3, 2010 at 10:03 pm | Reply
    • Rob

      Couldn't agree with you more. Most of my adult life has been in Germany and there is only one Octoberfest. These guy's have listed some good beers, but it does not match the Octoberfest beers.

      September 3, 2010 at 10:50 pm | Reply
    • Howard

      These two guys are a couple of dumkauphs!

      September 4, 2010 at 10:05 am | Reply
    • Lyons

      I was going to go on a rant about this after having lived in Germany for 9 years...but I see that many others have done so already and I thank you! My husband is a beer fan and we tried many different kinds of German beers over the years...except for the non alcoholic beer listed, even he has NEVER heard of the beers listed in the article. Munich was a 3 hour train ride away from us and we went to Munich several times...we had a routine and order of which we visited Augustiner, Hofbrau Haus, Lowenbrau, etc...Ironically, we only went to Oktoberfest once (which was awesome...)

      Those beers listed might be good and that's fine, but to associate these beers with Munich's Oktoberfest really is a sin.

      Prost!

      September 4, 2010 at 11:55 am | Reply
  66. RichardHead

    Please refrain from drinking until your curtain call-Dog and Pony show,Matamoros,Mexico.

    September 3, 2010 at 5:27 pm | Reply
  67. donkey pee

    I like beer

    September 3, 2010 at 5:22 pm | Reply
    • Auchtung!

      I like Wurzburg Hofbrau–had many cases while stationed in that great city in 1972. Those Germans can sure make a good brew & strong Tiger Tanks.

      September 6, 2010 at 9:02 am | Reply
    • taotaotasi

      These guys have no idea what they are talking about. They probably drink bud light at home. After growing up in Nuremberg and going to the Oktoberfest in Munich every year I still can't stand US commercial beers.

      September 6, 2010 at 5:16 pm | Reply
      • yaright

        You're absolutely right... nobody can possibly appreciate beer as much as the Germans. I won't even use the word beer anymore. Sorry

        September 7, 2010 at 4:27 pm | Reply
    • Jesus

      Beer drinkers have one thing in common--dunlaps! That's where their gut "done laps" over their belt. Some have lost the ability to ever see or use their favorite body part.

      September 7, 2010 at 6:09 pm | Reply
      • Tom Long

        Dun laps – that's what happened to your brain when your fat mouth ate it.

        September 7, 2010 at 6:31 pm | Reply
    • Wilkomen

      I just wish the German women serving the beer would shave their arm pits, legs & their beards. Is that you, Aunt Rudolph under them whiskers?

      September 8, 2010 at 6:43 am | Reply

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